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The Walking Dead Season 9 Episode 15: Recap & Discussion

The Walking Dead Season 9 Episode 15: Recap & Discussion

March 24, 2019
Johnny O'DellbyJohnny O'Dell
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“The Calm Before”

 

A happy survivor couple finds their way to Hilltop and quickly integrates into the community. Overtime, they’re seen making crafts and eventually boarding a carriage to the Fair at the Kingdom. Unfortunately, their love story is cut short by Alpha, who ambushes and kills, and scalps them at their camp.

Brian Sheppard as Miles, Caroline Duncan as Hilde – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Gene Page/AMC

The Fair is finally here. Ezekiel addresses the crowd and declares they’ve finally accomplished Rick, Carl, and Jesus’ dreams of reuniting the communities. “Let the fair of new beginning begin!” Ezekiel says. Shortly after, Daryl, Michonne, and the convoy arrive. Carol scolds Henry for running away while Michonne greets Ezekiel, who’s shocked to see her. “I was in the neighborhood,” Michonne says. Carol and Ezekiel marvel at how much Judith has grown while Tara spots Lydia among the group. “The plan was to bring Henry…just Henry” Tara says.

Khary Payton as Ezekiel, Melissa McBride as Carol Peletier, Danai Gurira as Michonne, Cailey Fleming as Judith – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Gene Page/AMC
Khary Payton as Ezekiel – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Gene Page/AMC

Michonne convenes the leaders and tells them she’s finally ready for Alexandria to help out. “We’re here now,” she says. Gabriel announces Alexandria is willing to grant asylum to Lydia but Tara warns if her mother retaliates it’ll be against Hilltop, not Alexandria. Michonne warns her that none of them were trusted when first introduced to Rick’s group, and Tara relents.

They all agree to send some of their own to Hilltop to guard against any potential attacks from the Whisperers and Michonne decides to re-establish the charter. That way, an attack against Hilltop counts as an attack against all of them. Ezekiel then retrieves the original charter as Tara and Michonne finally make up. They all sign it and Michonne tells Gabriel he should sign for Alexandria as the head of the council.

Later, Henry and Lydia walk around the Fair, which is full of booths, survival lessons, and more. Ezekiel tells them he hopes to see them at the movie tonight while Luke tries convincing Alden to perform with him. Enid accidentally calls Alden her boyfriend but he decides that it’s ok, making it official. Kelly emotionally tells Connie how upset she is that she left without saying goodbye and Connie apologizes but says she had to protect that baby. She hints that she may have lost a baby in the past.

Cassady McClincy as Lydia, Matt Lintz as Henry – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Jackson Lee Davis/AMC
Angel Theory as Kelly – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Gene Page/AMC

Michonne informs Siddiq she’s going to leave for Hilltop with the first group and he hints he has baby news for her, but says he’ll fill her in when they’re all back at Hilltop. Addy apologizes to Henry for ratting him out but he forgives her. Gage and Rodney introduce themselves to Lydia and tell her that Addy has a thing for Henry, warning her not to mess anything up.

Daryl, Carol, Michonne, Magna, Henry, Tara, and others leave Kingdom and meet the highwaymen on the road to the Hilltop. They show them an abandoned camp where a struggle happened…it’s clear the Whisperers were here. Carol, Daryl, Michonne, and Yumiko decide to track them while the rest head to Hilltop.

That night, Daryl and the gang get attacked by a group of walkers; they take them out one by one until the Whisperers surround them. Beta emerges from the trees and tells them to drop their weapons. “You just had to give me the girl,” he growls at Daryl, telling him their deal is off. Flashback to earlier that day – we see Alpha in disguise at the Fair wearing the clothes of the woman she murdered earlier on. Eugene tells Rosita that he’s collected radio parts to make it easier for the communities to communicate with each other. Rosita tells him that despite her pregnancy things don’t need to change between them.

Josh McDermitt as Dr. Eugene Porter, Seth Gilliam as Father Gabriel Stokes, Christian Serratos as Rosita Espinosa – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Jackson Lee Davis/AMC

Elsewhere, Henry assures Lydia he’s not into Addy. They kiss and he leaves to check on the pipes. Ezekiel introduces himself to a disguised Alpha, who tells him she has a feeling it’ll be a long winter. That night the Kingdom shows the movie and Lydia worries about Henry not being back yet. Then, Alpha sits down next to her and quietly tells her not to say anything.

Cassady McClincy as Lydia, Matt Lintz as Henry – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Jackson Lee Davis/AMC
Khary Payton as Ezekiel, Samantha Morton as Alpha – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Jackson Lee Davis/AMC

Later that night, Alpha, now out of disguise, approaches Daryl and the gang tied to a tree. She tells them she ran into trouble on the road as she wipes her bloody knife on her pants. Michonne warns her if she tries to get Lydia back they’ll respond in force, but Alpha assures her Lydia isn’t her concern anymore. She takes out a shotgun and tells Daryl to come with her alone.

As the sun rises Alpha forces him to the top of a cliff where a massive horde of walkers and Whisperers walk beneath them. Alpha says Daryl’s communities are a joke and that people should conform to her way of life or there will be chaos. She then tells him his friends at the camp are fine, but the next time her people cross into her land she’ll release the horde into theirs. She clarifies she marked the border and Daryl asks if she killed Lydia.

Samantha Morton as Alpha, Norman Reedus as Daryl Dixon – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Gene Page/AMC

Flashback to earlier that night – Alpha confronts Lydia about being a traitor but she tells her this is a better way of life. She then threatens to scream if she doesn’t leave and Alpha tells her she was never one of them. Lydia breaks down in tears as Alpha leaves. Flash forward to Alpha telling Daryl she didn’t kill Lydia and doubts she he can protect her. Later, Beta asks Alpha about Lydia and she tells him, “I want to be alone.” One of the Whisperers accidentally witnesses Alpha crying so she stabs him in the neck, killing him, so no one sees her being weak.

Cassady McClincy as Lydia, Samantha Morton as Alpha – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Gene Page/AMC

On their way back to Kingdom Daryl, Michonne, Carol, and Yumiko find Siddiq tied to a tree. Limping and bloody, he points them to a nearby hill, which has 10 spikes in the ground. Each spike has a severed head stabbed through the top. The group walks towards it in horror, examining each one. Among the victims are Ozzy, DJ, Alek, Frankie, Tammy, Addy, Rodney, Enid, Tara, and Henry! Each head is revealed through a juxtaposition of people at the Fair asking others where they are. Lydia rushes up to Ezekiel to tell him her mother was here and she can’t find Henry. (Cut to Henry’s head). As Carol finally realizes it’s him Daryl comforts her and tells her to look away, but it’s too late. Carol is overwhelmed with emotion.

Later, the gang returns to the Fair and Siddiq addresses the crowd to deliver the tragic news. He tells them how brave everyone was in their final moments and how he was intentionally kept alive to tell this very story. He encourages everyone to remember the fallen. Later, Daryl and Lydia return to the border. Lydia leaves the necklace Henry made for her on the ground by the spike, and the two walk away as snow flurries begin to fall.

Avi Nash as Siddiq, Alanna Masterson as Tara Chambler, Katelyn Nacon as Enid, Matt Lintz as Henry, Kelley Mack as Addy, Elyse Nicole Dufour as Frankie, Brett Butler as Tammy Rose, Joe Ando-Hirsh as Rodney – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Jackson Lee Davis/AMC
Norman Reedus as Daryl Dixon, Cassady McClincy as Lydia – The Walking Dead _ Season 9, Episode 15 – Photo Credit: Jackson Lee Davis/AMC

And that wraps up our recap for “The Calm Before”! We want to hear ALL your thoughts on this Season Finale-esque episode in the comments below. How do you feel about the pike victims? Are you relieved they deviated from the comics?

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Comments 129

  1. Dee McDowell says:
    4 years ago

    This was a tough episode to watch. I can’t believe that they killed off Henry,Tara and Enid ?

    Reply
    • Van Ortiz says:
      4 years ago

      The time jumping was WAY OVERKILL. I recorded e15 and e16 and watched them b2b. e15 ends with Alpha and Lydia in the theatre. E16 begins with “previously on the Walking Dead” and shows scenes that DID NOT occur in e15. Henry and others now missing without explanation. Lydia tells Carol, “Your son is dead cuz of me.” WTH?! E16 ends with Alpha out in the woods with no snow taking lashes. Then King back on radio talking to Judith on radio. Coyou tube has scenes not in either episodes. Confused as Hell.

      Reply
      • Ryan says:
        4 years ago

        Same thing happened on my DVR. I had to go to AMC website a d watch the last like 10 mins of the show. They really screwed up the time slot on tv

        Reply
  2. AnonymousTWDFan says:
    4 years ago

    I was genuinely excited to see Tara on the pike! 😀

    But… since Henry is gone, who gets Carl’s story now? It’s probably better left untouched tbh.

    Reply
    • MoonwalkerKari says:
      4 years ago

      Hmm, good question. Someone on Youtube had a theory – that Lydia could get Carl’s story (in some way at least). And I think that Daryl could take her with him, since he doesn’t live like the others do, and who understands Lydia better than Daryl? No one. They were both abused, and Lydia is used to live ‘without’ people, just like Daryl. So who knows, maybe she will get something from Carl’s story…

      Reply
    • Nimesh Silva says:
      4 years ago

      Judith could get part of Carl’s story line

      Reply
  3. Gabe says:
    4 years ago

    What a mind-tolling episode. Great preformances. The feels…just…wow.

    Reply
  4. Joe says:
    4 years ago

    I’M IN SHOCK!!!!! I totally did not see that coming in the end! WHY HENRY!!! WHY TARA!!!! WHY ENID!!! This episode brought tears to my eyes 🙁

    Reply
    • Black Orphan says:
      4 years ago

      A very emotional episode to watch. I was So scared it would be Carol or Michonne who would get killed. I never dreamed what was to come. When it was showing the heads and came to Enid, I just lost it and cried. But then Tara and Henry. It was awful. Still upset

      Reply
  5. Laura-Dawn Massie says:
    4 years ago

    Might as well put my heart on that spike. Omg-

    Reply
    • Blair Rao says:
      4 years ago

      Well Said!

      Reply
    • Matthew Stump says:
      4 years ago

      This episode made lydia’s character irrelevant. We had an attachment to her because of the hope with Henry, but now that’s gone. Crazy.

      Reply
    • Black Orphan says:
      4 years ago

      So very true. I cried and cried. Poor Carol. She has lost every child she has cared for.

      Reply
      • Ashley Miller says:
        4 years ago

        She still has judith!! She loves judith! That was ezekials son also

        Reply
        • Black Orphan says:
          4 years ago

          She does love Judith. But Henry was her son. She was raising him as her own with Ezekial.

          Reply
  6. Raven says:
    4 years ago

    The ultimate sadist award goes to the walking dead for making me cry!!!?

    Reply
    • Black Orphan says:
      4 years ago

      Me to Raven. It was just so heartbreaking. Carol has lost every child she has ever cared about. Then poor Enid, she won’t get to just survive somehow. So unfair. Then Tara to. Just to many loses in 1 episode. ????

      Reply
  7. Twdfan says:
    4 years ago

    So who taking Tara’s place now?? Is Maggie coming back? And when will we find out exactly what is going on with rick? He is still alive!!!!! This was definitely a crazy episode!!

    Reply
    • Emilia says:
      4 years ago

      He’s not coming back but there will be movies

      Reply
  8. Joe Dornak says:
    4 years ago

    Best episode I’ve ever watched, alpha is definitely worse than Negan. I still can’t belive that many good characters died, never cried this hard about any movie or tv show in my life.

    Reply
    • BennyDice says:
      4 years ago

      This is the best episode you have ever watched?…LOL…..Have you seen the whole series?

      Reply
  9. sandyAKA says:
    4 years ago

    Henry caused part of this mess & ended up with a kiss! Alpha is a savage with hidden emotions!

    Reply
  10. Maribel Crespo says:
    4 years ago

    I’m shocked and shook. What a heartbreaking episode, I’m in tears, especially hard to lose Enid and Tara.

    Reply
  11. Blutnguts says:
    4 years ago

    I thought it was odd that Alpha just let them go, but then…wtf is all I could say.

    Reply
  12. John says:
    4 years ago

    Release Neegan.. let him go to work

    Reply
    • Joe says:
      4 years ago

      I agree. They need Negan now more than ever. Bet if Negan was already apart of the community, this would never of happened.

      Reply
    • max says:
      4 years ago

      i believe negan will play important role by killing alpha..can’t believe Tara was in the list..damn alpha!

      Reply
      • Mandi Revis says:
        4 years ago

        In the comics Negan kills Alpha

        Reply
  13. Gene Seale says:
    4 years ago

    Rough episode tonight! This season is FANTASTIC though! Motivated more than ever to catch up on the comics. It’s a must!

    Reply
  14. Vicki Miller says:
    4 years ago

    I hope this doesn’t cause friction between the communities that have finally come together again. Will they come closer together, or will they resent Lydia and it cause a separation between the communities once again?

    Reply
  15. abl says:
    4 years ago

    This is a job for crazy carol and super negan to handle! Time to extinguish that sadistic bitch!

    Reply
  16. Danny says:
    4 years ago

    Holy shit. Did not see that ending coming. Pretty intense. Thought it was pretty slow and then by the end I could hardly breath. Outstanding TV.

    Reply
  17. Pam says:
    4 years ago

    So many ppl on Twitter commenting how they are gonna stop watching, like they do every time a beloved character gets killed off…I will never ever threaten to stop watching, it’s a zombie apocalypse show people are going to get killed off!! But I am absolutely shocked and sad about Tara and Enid!!! ???? still love this show, always will ?

    Reply
    • BennyDice says:
      4 years ago

      Who gives a fuck what the twitter mob has to say?….groupthink will be the downfall of this country…people give way to much credit to keyboard trolls…think for yourself…

      Reply
    • Marilyn says:
      4 years ago

      So true!

      Reply
    • RottingCorpse says:
      3 years ago

      It’s called the Walking Dead not the Walking Living

      Reply
  18. Blair Rao says:
    4 years ago

    I am heartbroken! ?
    Shocking episode! I cannot believe that Tara, Enid and Henry are gone. I feel awful for those that loved them back home. Its about to get real. And I think that Negan is going to join them all to fight!

    Reply
  19. Samantha Drennan says:
    4 years ago

    YES!!!!!!!

    Reply
    • Samantha Drennan says:
      4 years ago

      That was meant to be a reply to “release Negan”

      Reply
  20. Petshopgal says:
    4 years ago

    OMG I was affraid to go outside with my dog after this episode. I’m shocked to see Tara and Enid gone now. I smell a carol showdown coming soon!

    Reply
    • JOSHERTAKER says:
      4 years ago

      I’m glad they deviated from the comics as far as not killing the King. I like having him around.

      Reply
  21. Shauna says:
    4 years ago

    I agree, release Negan and let him help take care of Alpha. I was very shocked to see Henry killed off, I think that was the hardest death in this episode. But, then I dont know if it was so difficult because of him actually being killed or because of the emotional toll it will take on Carol. Ugh, so much emotion and only 1 episode left this season.

    Reply
  22. Angie Perez says:
    4 years ago

    I’m so heartbroken over tara enid and Henry ???? Carol will come for alpha.

    Reply
  23. Matthew Stump says:
    4 years ago

    This episode made lydia’s character irrelevant. We had an attachment to her because of the hope with Henry, but now that’s gone. Crazy.

    Reply
    • BennyDice says:
      4 years ago

      After they got rid of rick and killed off carl this whole show is basically irrelevant….

      Reply
  24. Rick D says:
    4 years ago

    Enid deserved better. Once of the most soul crushing episodes in a while. As for Tara and Henry, it was their time. Henry became a nuisance in time. Would’ve loved to see the Highway Men develop a bit more. Regardless, the loss of Enid leave me angry. Release Negan and make the whispers scream.

    Reply
  25. Ashley M Miller says:
    4 years ago

    She hasn’t lost judith….she loves that little kick ass dearly.

    Reply
  26. Sherri Stout says:
    4 years ago

    What will happen to Lydia now?

    Reply
  27. Black Orphan says:
    4 years ago

    I have loved TWD since the very first episode. I have watched them grow and become leaders. I have watched them love and be loved. I have watched them lose people they loved. I have been shocked at who has died. I have watched main characters leave the show. This is my favorite show for all time. I will never stop watching, I’ll watch until they take it off the air. Which I hope it’s a long way off. The episode that Abraham and Glen died in was super hard to watch. But I really believe that tonight’s episode was the hardest yet. So many loved ones killed. When it showed Enid, I started crying, but then Tara and lastly Henry. It was so very SAD. Carol has lost every child she has ever loved. I’m still upset and waiting to watch TTD and wondering who the special guest star will be. RIP, Enid, Tara and Henry. #youwillbemissed

    Reply
    • BennyDice says:
      4 years ago

      LOL….so many loved ones killed….not 1 person that got kabbobed was a main character….

      Reply
      • Black Orphan says:
        4 years ago

        Just because they aren’t main characters, doesn’t mean they qrent loved.

        Reply
  28. Sherri Stout says:
    4 years ago

    What will happen to Lydia now??

    Reply
  29. Jen says:
    4 years ago

    We need Rick back and a good speech, revenge is needed! They are all mere shadows of the bad asses they were before the time jump!

    Reply
  30. Rick Jackson says:
    4 years ago

    This Show That once was A Diamond is Now A Blackened Turd. This Story Line as Well as the Negan War may have played well in the Comics is just way too out there for A Television Show. Even one About the Zombie Apocalypse. There’s no Character Development, It’s become A Walk on Role til they get killed off. Tara was A Character that FINALLY May have had growth and development and become A Character we could care about, But Bam! It’s just like Beth’s Character from seasons ago. When Rick AKA Andrew Lincoln left it was A Sign, The Show ran it’s Course. What once was Griping Story telling is Now D Class Shock Value in A B grade T.V. Show. Like the Walkers of the Title, put A Knife in it’s Head already and call it Lights Out.

    Reply
    • BASTet says:
      4 years ago

      You give it shock value? Heh

      Reply
  31. Sha says:
    4 years ago

    I really do NOT trust Lydia!! Alpha must have had help capturing all those people. What could be better than to have someone on the inside always watching.

    Reply
    • mterstorg says:
      4 years ago

      I agree! I am getting an iffy feeling about Saddiq too- why did Alpha spare him, really?

      Reply
      • Penny says:
        4 years ago

        But Saddiq has been there forever. Before the time jumps! I think he is a good guy, Lydia though…

        Reply
        • Sha says:
          4 years ago

          Yes Saddiq I trust but Lydia I just dont know. Maybe I am wrong but why wouldn’t she tell someone sooner that she saw her mom when she knows what her mom is capable of!

          Reply
      • Pulche says:
        4 years ago

        They didn’t kill off Saddiq because the three communities wouldn’t have had a doctor if both him and Enid were killed. It’s an unwritten, unspoken law in writing. They would’ve had to scramble to find another doctor and that would’ve been a disaster to write.

        Reply
    • bakerbitch says:
      4 years ago

      I was considering that. Lydia could have been involved in their capture. Could she be the reason that Addy and Rodney were spiked? The only purpose she serves as far as I can tell is to sabotage the communities. I really don’t like her at all.

      Reply
      • Penny says:
        4 years ago

        An idea that isn’t without precedent in the universe. There was a child on FTWD whose purpose was to get inside communities and her family would then attack. It was the catalyst that brought down Madison’s community in the stadium. And then she killed Nick, I it’s entirely plausible that Lydia is a bad guy.

        Reply
  32. James says:
    4 years ago

    Carol will come unhinged. Carol is coming and Hell’s coming with her. A reckoning is coming.

    Reply
  33. Myst says:
    4 years ago

    Why don’t you just tell everyone get it over with and start over because you ruined this show

    Reply
  34. Eunice says:
    4 years ago

    I don’t care Henry died. He caused the whole thing over a stupid crush and I love Daryl but he should have stood his grounds. Michone was right in not trusting; look how many dead now.

    Reply
  35. Beth says:
    4 years ago

    Connie taking care of Daryl Dixon Wick’s dog they should hook up

    Reply
    • linda says:
      4 years ago

      Scared me when he left dog…I was afraid it was a sign he would not be back!

      Reply
  36. Joanne Jaggard says:
    4 years ago

    Why didn’t Alpha kill Michone, Daryl and Carol when they were captured? She could have spared Yumiko to convey the threat of the horde to the communities! If Alpha is supposed to be so smart and ruthless why would she let them live?

    Reply
    • keith says:
      4 years ago

      Exactly! Illogical behavior to suit the shows need to keep these core characters. Poor writing lapse but a powerful ending nonetheless. Only one of those three leaders should have been present. That would have been a stretch if allowed to lie … but, OK, one … I’ll roll with it. I have a question though. Please forgive me if I missed something obvious. How did enough Whisperers slip in to abduct that many people and get out unnoticed?!?! It just seems to be a glaring gap in logic unless (hopefully) I missed something

      Reply
    • Pulche says:
      4 years ago

      They probably wanted to go eye for an eye against those who killed all their people. Wanted to say “we call it even”, which would be in line with them wanting the stalemate after.

      Reply
  37. BASTet says:
    4 years ago

    Trying to wrap my head around how people are soooo emotionally distraught over this ep. I was simply relieved that Ezekiel or Carol wasn’t kabobbed.

    Reply
    • BennyDice says:
      4 years ago

      I think half of these comments are bots or people who work for the website…groupthink in action….

      Reply
      • BASTet says:
        4 years ago

        You notice that too? Radical change in activity right in tune with another format downgrade. SMH

        Reply
  38. ortho says:
    4 years ago

    Great episode!! Now I wonder if we see a showdown between Alpha and Carol!! My money is on Carol. Finally the communities are united again. Good that the murders were announced with everyone present. Surprised no one recognized the hair or dress that Alpha was wearing. The only solution is to kill the bad folks.

    Reply
  39. ortho says:
    4 years ago

    Oh also kill Lydia.

    Reply
  40. BobO says:
    4 years ago

    Can someone tell me how Alpha got Henry, Tara and the rest out of The Kingdom?

    Reply
    • ArtB says:
      4 years ago

      I was wondering that myself. These small “time jumps” (12 hrs or so it seems) are making it difficult to connect the dots sometimes. Tough losses tonite for sure.

      Reply
      • BobO says:
        4 years ago

        One recap had Alpha “sneaking them out one by one”. That doesn’t seem possible

        Reply
    • Joe says:
      3 years ago

      How did Alpha get in in the first place?

      Reply
  41. Walkingwithmegz says:
    4 years ago

    I was happy for certain characters deaths but when I saw them I burst into tears…. it’s was taking me back to the reveal of Sophia’s death back in s2! That episode was breath taking… also wasn’t a good idea to watch it at 3 in the morning but anyhow…. thank you so so soo much to everyone involved in that episode. The shows coming back to the energy it has back in early seasons!

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  42. CopperRed17 says:
    4 years ago

    While I know Addy wasn’t a main character, her death really got to me. It could be that she reminds me of someone I care about. I am sad to see Enid and Tara go as they were showing great leadership. Extremely difficult episode to watch. I’m ready to see some retaliation now!

    Reply
  43. Mterstorg says:
    4 years ago

    This was NOT a “calm before” ! This was so hard! Things just got real. Why can’t we have a “Blue skies and Rainbows” with butterflies and pretty flowers? I know- I’m not serious! That was just so horrible. I follow a spoiler account and saw the leaked pictures beforehand. I have NEVER been sick to my stomach before. This episode made my stomach hurt. #releasethenegan

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  44. BennyDice says:
    4 years ago

    Pretty boring episode till the end… they did a good job with the horde revelation….as for the heads on pikes…it was a big meh for me…I thought they needed to put carol, the king or michonne on a pike to really get a reaction….most of the characters they killed off I could not care less about…at least they got rid of a few annoying characters with tara and a couple of those hilltop kids….I wish siddiq, luke and kelly were also on the pikes….they suck…

    Reply
    • BASTet says:
      4 years ago

      I would’ve been utterly distraught to see Carol or Ezekiel’s head on a pole… but that’s how the show USED to be… jerking emotions out of you. They rob us of that now. Now they’re just jerking my attention span.

      Reply
      • BennyDice says:
        4 years ago

        I agree…I think Herschels death was the last one to get to me….even Abraham to a degree…Glens death was obvious but it was such a major comic point that you knew it was coming…

        Reply
  45. Mike says:
    4 years ago

    How was alpha at the fair and with Daryl at the same time?

    Reply
    • ArtB says:
      4 years ago

      Small time jumps (about 6-12 hrs.). It is happening often in the last few episodes, which in my opinion has made the show a bit more challenging to watch.

      Reply
  46. Desdie22 says:
    4 years ago

    That was an awful episode. Seeing Enid up there really broke my heart. She was doing such good…and I thought Henry would be dead a couple of episodes ago. He was so stupid in running away after Lydia. But to see Carol have to face that in this episode, was just heart wrenching. Alpha is truly evil. Great acting there. Ugh. I am going to have a tough time processing all of this.

    Reply
  47. linda says:
    4 years ago

    Don’t worry folks, Carol will handled this!

    Reply
    • CK says:
      4 years ago

      They poked a sleeping bear!!!

      Reply
  48. Lynda Diane Krop says:
    4 years ago

    This one did me in. Too many, too much hurt. What I DO want to see is Alpha sufferr terribly at Carol’s hands.

    Reply
  49. Sha says:
    4 years ago

    Getting the “heads only” out of the Kingdom isn’t very hard to imagine for me, surprise beheaddings in the dark. What confuses me is after Magna left with the highwaymen, how did her head not also end up on the pikes with the highwaymen?

    Reply
    • Office Glen says:
      4 years ago

      I was wondering the same thing. How did she separate from the group going to the Hilltop and/or survive?

      Reply
  50. BennyTinyBalls says:
    4 years ago

    Except Alanna Masterson i.e. Tara

    Reply
  51. CK says:
    4 years ago

    Oh man my recording was incomplete and I was trying to find the 25 missing minutes when I read too much!!! Well in one way at least I’m prepared. I’m relieved that it wasn’t Daryl, Carol or Michonne.

    Reply
  52. SusanK says:
    4 years ago

    I still would have liked to see how they kidnapped Enid, Tara and the others… didn’t they have guards around the perimeter of the Kingdom… it does not make sense.

    Reply
    • Fiore Barbara says:
      4 years ago

      I agree.. that is a big question in my mind.

      Reply
  53. Casey says:
    4 years ago

    Here’s something a lot of people aren’t talking about… Now that Enid is no longer living, where has Hershel/Glenn’s pocket watch gone?

    Reply
  54. Kyle says:
    4 years ago

    That was some great television last night. Probably one of the best episodes of the series and top 3 most shocking moment!!

    Reply
  55. Ed says:
    4 years ago

    With Enid gone, I believe Aaron is the last survivor of Alexandria, as it was when the group arrived. Am I missing anyone?

    Reply
    • Jagerman says:
      4 years ago

      Scott, and possibly Heath

      Reply
      • Ed says:
        4 years ago

        Ah, yes, thank you. I can’t believe I forgot about Heath and that mystery.

        Reply
  56. Michael says:
    4 years ago

    Ok, I am also shaken by all of this, I get how the “Highway men” , Tara and the Ginger got captured and beheaded because they were out on the trail to Hilltop , BUT how did the whispers get Enid, Henry and the others that were at the Fair????>?? that is very unclear to me and was not explained or eluded to in the episode. I love this series, but don’t like loose, unexplained occurrences like this especially when it involves such pivotal characters. Someone please explain.

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    • Paula Dionis says:
      4 years ago

      Henry went to go check on something and I’m guessing maybe Enid did as well? And then they were somehow captured by the Whisperers?

      Reply
    • Paula Dionis says:
      4 years ago

      Also, the other thing that comes to mind is the two girls that Henry interacted with when he was looking for Lydia. Just seemed like an odd interaction, but… your guess is as good as mine, eh?

      Reply
    • Alex says:
      4 years ago

      Whisperers were at the fair. Alpha talking to the king without him noticed. And I believe she’s not alone. The only thing unclear to me is the timeline. You can in the near ending of the episodes that everyone looking for the victims. But it’s already morning, how can’t they noticed it at evening? Maybe they are captured after the movie but there’s also a scene where Lydia talked to the king and said that her mom was there and he can’t find Henry. Why the king don’t warn the people or the fighters at least. Was he captured also with Lydia and soon released? What’s going on?

      Reply
  57. afiqbb says:
    4 years ago

    NEGAN – UNLEASHED THE BEAST!!!.. I think he should be the next leader of hilltop after Tara’s death.. It would be perfect considering Rick’s did have a vision about Negan’s goodness.. 🙂

    Reply
  58. Finn O'Brien says:
    4 years ago

    Can someone please explain how Alpha managed to get Enid, Henry, Tara etc out of Kingdom by herself in plain sight? And when did she do it? I’m very confused how this is all possible

    Reply
  59. Jagerman says:
    4 years ago

    I’m constantly comparing the show to the book, and looking for the clever twists. There are plenty, and I love ‘em. For the recent turn of events, I’ve got my theories, but this one has me perplexed, especially with how Lydia will fit in, being without a boyfriend and all. Carl was her anchor to the group in the book. Maybe Daryl will be her mentor because he understands her.

    Reply
  60. Brittany Smith says:
    4 years ago

    How did Magna survive when the other highway men were killed?! Hopefully they’ll answer that question next week! Any thoughts?

    Reply
    • Lekz says:
      4 years ago

      I believe it’s not only Magna that survived. Apparently, they split up with the highway men and went to the hilltop.

      Reply
  61. Paula Dionis says:
    4 years ago

    This is driving me crazy… Please help. How does Lydia have the carved Hilltop necklace before Alpha presents herself to her at the Kingdom?

    Reply
  62. Alex says:
    4 years ago

    Whisperers were at the fair. Alpha talking to the king without him noticed. And I believe she’s not alone. The only thing unclear to me is the timeline. You can in the near ending of the episodes that everyone looking for the victims. But it’s already morning, how can’t they noticed it at evening? Maybe they were captured after the movie but there’s also a scene where Lydia talked to the king and said that her mom was there and she can’t find Henry. Why the king don’t warn the people or the fighters at least. Was he captured also with Lydia and soon released? What’s going on?

    Reply
    • Paula Dionis says:
      4 years ago

      So many questions with this episode! Usually, it’s more clear as to when they jump back and forth time wise. This episode is such a cliff hanger and the season is nearly over! We might have to wait months for answers…

      Reply
  63. Patrick Sim says:
    4 years ago

    I can’t wait until Alpha and her gang of scum sucking low life’s get wiped out.

    Reply
  64. George B says:
    4 years ago

    I was very disappointed with the writing of this episode. There was SO MUCH in this episode that changed SO MUCH of the story line going into the finale. The “story” of this episode was AWESOME! My disappointment is in how it was told. I can honestly say that have NEVER felt as though I were watching a TWD Soap Opera until this episode.

    Reply
  65. Dundee says:
    4 years ago

    Anybody knows why the lips of heads on the spikes seemed to be moving up and down a little? Or was it only me imagining this? First I thought they might have been deliberately turned into zombies first and then decapitated later, but I realized Alpha was always straight to the point, kill first before others

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    • Máté Villányi says:
      4 years ago

      They were moving, because their brains were not destroyed.

      Reply
      • Elle says:
        4 years ago

        I’m confused about their lips moving while the heads are on stakes. Wouldn’t the puncture to the head cause the zombie to die? Why AREN’T their brains destroyed? I know that cutting off the heads doesn’t kill them, but don’t the stakes go up into the brain?

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  66. Rick Grimes lover says:
    4 years ago

    After the constant warning from Lydia I knew henry was going to die but didnt…but didnt know when or how…but Enid just made me cry like a baby and Im wondering why…also Tara just destroyed me its like she knew exactly who too kill…but hopefully someone explains too me why she picked who she picked

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  67. keith says:
    4 years ago

    I have a question though. Please forgive me if I missed something obvious. How did enough Whisperers slip in to abduct that many people and get out unnoticed?!?! It just seems to be a glaring gap in logic unless (hopefully) I missed something

    Reply
    • Fiore Barbara says:
      4 years ago

      I don’t know but I am asking the same questions.

      Reply
    • Melissa says:
      4 years ago

      Yes why didn’t siddiq tell that part. I thought that was a very important part of the story. How did they get all of those people outside of the gates without anyone noticing ?

      Reply
  68. Fiore Barbara says:
    4 years ago

    I agree.. that is a big question in my mind.

    Reply
  69. Fiore Barbara says:
    4 years ago

    How did they get all the people they killed out of the fair. Why didn’t anyone see them. Why didn’t Tara fight them?

    Reply
  70. Pulche says:
    4 years ago

    I was really hoping it was Rosita who was killed instead of Tara. The whole Eugene jumping on Rosita and Rosita shoving the friendzone in his face is getting really, really old. And I thought Tara was a much more interesting character.

    Reply
  71. Elizabeth Graziano says:
    3 years ago

    Did Alpha choose which survivor would be killed and their head placed on a pike or was it random and did she have help?

    Reply
  72. Tracie says:
    3 years ago

    How did the heads move when that’s how you kill them?

    Reply
  73. Michael says:
    1 year ago

    Hi guys and gals. I’m perfectly knew to this little forum, and I’m just now getting around to finishing seasons 8 and beyond.

    Here’s my comment:
    WTF!?!

    I am willing to give it to Alpha that she snuck into kingdom with the blonde hair and wide brimmed hate with a pretty dress, but how the actual hell do the writers expect us to believe that she kidnapped all those people in a single afternoon, BY HERSELF!?

    I searched out this forum simply because I NEEDED to vent, to express my absolute disbelief in this episode.
    Kidnap Madi? Sure, easy.
    Hopeful, fertile, redhead tween, no problem.
    Injured and waylaid Henry? Absolutely.
    But Enid? Tara? Hell, even the blacksmith’s wife was a seasoned survivalist.
    Dragging them all out of the Kingdom without notice? LAME!

    Alpha’s whole philosophy is that the “community” is soft, and the writers elected to capitulate to that theme to build her character, but it COMPLETELY betrayed the truth, that this fair was a impossibly hard fought peace and those survivors would have all put up a fight before being kidnapped.

    This episode made me sick. More so than any episode to date, and I’m not talking about the death toll.

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