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The Walking Dead Season 7 Premiere Recap & Discussion

Here we go…arguably the most anticipated season premiere of all time. The Walking Dead Season 7 opens with a familiar scene, a stunned Rick on his knees moments after Negan’s kill. Just like the comics, Negan seems elated and Rick promises to kill him. “Not today, not tomorrow, but I’m gonna kill you.” NOT like the comics, Negan taunts Rick and drags him into the RV. The camera pans down to reveal the brains and remains of his victim.

In the RV Negan throws Rick around, puts the axe on the table, and drives off. Negan mocks Rick for threatening to kill him. “Your best chance to is to stand up, grab that axe, and drive it through the back of my head.” Rick does but Negan’s ready for him and holds him at gunpoint. He reminds him to remember what happened and realize what COULD happen. As they ride through the fog Rick experiences flashbacks of Negan’s kill.

Negan throws Rick’s axe out the door and forces him to retrieve it. Rick’s surrounded by walkers in the fog and daringly makes his way on top of the RV, where he collapses. Time to re-live the horrific incident. He flashes back to Negan’s sick eeny meeny game, where Negan ends up picking……Abraham. He brutally bashes in Abe’s skull as the rest of the group’s forced to sit motionless, crying. Abe tells Negan to suck his nuts, Negan laughs, and then finishes the job, beating Abe’s head to a pulp.

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Negan waves his bloodied Lucille in front of Rosita and forces her to look at it. Unable to tolerate his cruelty for another second, Daryl springs to his feet, clocks Negan in the face, and the Saviors restrain him. “Not one bit of that shit flies here,” Negan warns. Dwight points Daryl’s own crossbow at him but Negan has other plans and lets him live. He then says, “I need you to know me…back to it” turns and HOLY F**K bashes in Glenn’s skull! Glenn lifts his head, bloodied with his eye protruding and calls out to Maggie’s. Negan taunts him while the rest of the group is completely emotionally devastated. Negan apologizes and then gruesomely finishes Glenn off, beating his skull into nothing. “I’m just getting started,” Negan pants with a grin. He turns to Rick and asks, “What, was the joke that bad?”

Flash forward to the present where Negan shoots the roof leading Rick to jump on the walker hanging from the bridge. The walker’s neck breaks off and Negan shoots the walkers under Rick. Negan reminds him one last time to grab his axe or more of his people might get the bat. He finds it, slashes the walkers, and finally finds his way back inside the RV after Negan again shoots the walkers around him.

Walker - The Walking Dead _ Season 7, Episode 1 - Photo Credit: Gene Page/AMC

Later, Negan returns Rick back to the scene of the crime and tells him that trip was meant to change the way he looks at him. Negan ties his belt around Carl’s arm, lays him on the ground, and marks a line on his forearm. Negan instructs Rick to cut his son’s arm off or he and everyone in the group will be killed. Rick pleads with him to have his arm cut off instead but Negan insists “this is the only way.” Negan becomes impatient and begins counting down from 3. Rick sobs and pleads Negan not to let him do it. Rick raises the axe, cocks his arm, and Negan stops him.

“Rick, you answer to me. You provide for me. You belong to me, RIGHT?” Negan demands. Finally satisfied with Rick’s emotional breakdown, Negan announces to the group, “Today was a productive damn day!” and warns them if they don’t answer to him, they’re all going to die. Negan instructs Dwight to take Daryl prisoner, gives the group one of their trucks, and says they’ll be back for their first offering in one week.

As Negan and the Saviors leave, Rick’s group is left defeated, furious, and emotionally exhausted. Maggie rises up and instructs Rick to prepare to fight the Saviors. She decides to finish her trip to The Hilltop and Sasha volunteers to go with her. The group comforts her and together, they leave. We then witness a dream-like sequence of the entire group (including Abraham, Glenn, and Maggie & Glenn’s baby) enjoying dinner together in Alexandria. This is the future that they were meant to have, but everything’s changed now. It’s Negan’s world and for the moment, Rick’s just living in it. Rick picks up his axe, gets in the RV, and drives off.


What did YOU think of this emotional finale? Were you shocked at the deaths? What do you predict will happen from here on out?? Give us ALL your reactions in the comments below!

  1. seanmathews1 October 23, 2016 at 7:12 pm - Reply

    JDM fucking nailed it. That is all. Bravo.

  2. Zombiekiller1965 October 23, 2016 at 7:18 pm - Reply
  3. CameronR159 October 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm - Reply

    This scene was so overdone. Two kills was unnecasery, Daryl intervening was unnecessary, and it seems like that was done ONLY to one up the comic.

    • seanmathews1 October 23, 2016 at 7:26 pm - Reply

      I disagree. I think it had to be done. It cemented Negan as worse than the Governer. Non comic readers had to understand just how bad he is. Yeah… It one upped the comics. But I have no issue here. This ranks as one of the greatest episodes in the series and I can’t be more thrilled at how it was done. The actors did an amazing job. And again, I was worried about JDM at first… No more. Perfect fit.

      • CameronR159 October 23, 2016 at 7:32 pm - Reply

        I still disagree with them killing two people. It took no creativity for the writers to say: “The comics killed one, well kill two”. Plus, it was a waste of abrahams character. They should have used him in all out war.

        • BASTET. October 24, 2016 at 3:56 am - Reply

          I get what you’re saying & I also understand where the disagreements are coming from. For me, I knew someone was getting killed & Abraham was an easy guess, so it hurt, but not as much. I saw it coming. It was a second death that I didn’t see coming (the awesomeness that happens when you go into an ep spoiler free!) & that did me in! The fact that it was Glenn compounded it. I may earn a few downvotes here, but to me, this is recovering from a cliffhanger that shouldn’t have been, without killing Daryl or a pregnant Maggie. Imagine Abraham’s death without Glenn’s. This is slightly less effective than it could’ve been for Season 6’s finale, but it was well done, it worked & I’m OK with it.

          • seanmathews1 October 24, 2016 at 9:05 am

            I can see where you are coming from and don’t know why you would get down voted for it…

            For me, I had a feeling it would be Abraham all along. I had no real emotional connection to him at this point. He had died in the comics prior, so I figured he was on borrowed time. When it happened, I was just like… well, knew that was coming. That’s why personally I’m glad they did Glenn as well. It was that double whammy.

            It was Abraham for the TV only watchers… but Glenn was added for the readers.

            And by the way…. Abraham’s last words… He went out like a badass.

      • mcraig306 October 23, 2016 at 10:43 pm - Reply

        It wasn’t over done nor was it one upping the comic. Followers of the series got exactly what NEEDED to be shown. Negan is fucking brutal & that’s exactly what we got. Raw, unfiltered Negan. I’m saddened by Abraham & Glenn getting killed off but damn, Jeffrey Dean Morgan is AMAZING as Negan!!!!

      • ali October 24, 2016 at 10:29 am - Reply

        I’ve read your other comments as well the fact that you think that this is the best episode of the series just shows you are a twisted psychopath, who needs to be locked up in a mental institution. This is the worst episode of the series and AMC and TWD crossed a line from where there is no going back and was the last for me as it was for alot of sane and normal people

        • iamweathersby October 25, 2016 at 2:49 pm - Reply

          You are ridiculous. The show is the Walking Dead. Its not about love and fruity flowers lol. Its about blood. Death. Gore. And this episode was issue 100 of the comics which introduced Negan as the new MAIN villain and overall character. He is meant to be dark and gruesomely brutal. He’s meant to joke about it like its shits and giggles. If you are going to bitch or stop watching the show over the way the GREATEST comic issue was put PERFECTLY on the TV screen because it was so violent, get your pansy ass out of this proud fandom! You should’ve expected to see this stuff considering the show is based on all that lmao!!! No one is psycho for enjoying how amazing those actors brought that issue to life. Fuck off. You bunch of pussies… Negan is just getting started.

  4. Bradyz13 October 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm - Reply

    You just knew Glenn’s time was up. Having killed his first non-dead, doomed him. Even though my GF called Abraham, I had said Glenn. It really sucked to be right for both of us.

  5. Phillip Blake Lives October 23, 2016 at 7:21 pm - Reply
  6. seanmathews1 October 23, 2016 at 7:27 pm - Reply

    Also…. Those hand takeouts. I thought the rubbing alcohol was the end of Rick hand. Very nice touch to toy with us comic readers….

  7. Phillip Blake Lives October 23, 2016 at 7:28 pm - Reply

    Negan officially established that Rick Grimes is his bitch. And a whole lot more ass-whupping to come. Not gonna be a fun season for Rick and friends.

  8. Phillip Blake Lives October 23, 2016 at 7:37 pm - Reply

    I love how they so awesomely stuck to Issue 100 with Glenn’s knarly death.

  9. villela October 23, 2016 at 7:43 pm - Reply

    Whack-a-mole in a subway train station (Sao Paulo/ Brazil) to promote the new season of TWD.

  10. sha25 October 23, 2016 at 7:44 pm - Reply

    I knew they were going to kill Abraham… Just because he had a purpose… He wanted to have a baby, he was ready… He was happy and in love. So… It was his end, when a character is ‘fronted’ in that way, that means it is going to die soon… And well… I didn’t expect Glenn’s death, and it was amazing how they got the comic-like image of his eye!! Pretty amazing… I cried a lot with Abe’s death, Glenn was… Well… It was time… Amazing episode, i’m in shock…

  11. villela October 23, 2016 at 7:59 pm - Reply
  12. BASTET. October 23, 2016 at 8:03 pm - Reply

    Caught off guard, sick, & devastated.

  13. Peaceful October 23, 2016 at 8:24 pm - Reply
    • Neutral-Grey October 23, 2016 at 10:56 pm - Reply

      What did you think you signed up for?

      • Peaceful October 24, 2016 at 11:43 am - Reply

        I know it’s a bloody series but I was hoping they’d not follow the comics since its tv and the comics are so graphic. Daryl wasn’t a part of the comics but a great addition so why couldn’t glen survive. He was one of the heroes. I can hope. I guess with so many negatives in the real news in my fantasy life i hoped the heroes would survive. Also, not to you but prior comments, let people express themselves without the name calling. I always thought walking dead followers were cool and capable of agreeing to disagree.

  14. WoodEroc October 23, 2016 at 8:33 pm - Reply

    Loved it! Very much in the spirit of the comics and looking forward to Negan/Carl later this season..

  15. AlphaWolf October 23, 2016 at 8:36 pm - Reply

    Absolutely incredible premiere and 100 % worth the wait. JDM is utterly polarizing as Negan and has set the stage beautifully for season 7 to be the best to date. If only Daryl could have controlled himself, maybe Glenn would still be alive? I have to admit though the picnic scene at the end was really not needed at all lol didn’t feel like we needed a visual.

  16. JockyRhonson October 23, 2016 at 8:38 pm - Reply
  17. Glenn24Rhee October 23, 2016 at 8:50 pm - Reply

    Can’t say I’m surprised… Now I’ve lost Glenn in both the comics and the show. Thanks a lot Daryl! (Don’t give me crap Daryl fans, we all know Negan was done taking lives after Abe) Moving on, I guess Maggie is my girl… the baby better live and she needs to name him Glenn instead of Hershel. I’m not going to lie, the episode felt a little weird in the sense that the deaths didn’t fit. I feel like this episode should have been last seasons finale. Still excited to see what the future holds.

  18. Copperpumpkin October 23, 2016 at 8:57 pm - Reply

    I have PTSD so sometimes the show is hard for me to watch, but this episode had me emotional in ways I have never felt for fictional characters before.

    Abraham’s death didn’t come as much of a surprise for me and I was chatting with a friend while his death happened. My fiancé was sitting next to me during the episode and we both exhaled at the wrong time. Just as my friend was telling me “I’m glad it didn’t end like the comics” was when Negan hit Glenn in the head.

    I genuinely thought I was going to be ok until he started trying to tell Maggie he’d find her and I lost it. I was a gross, sobbing, emotional wreck for about fifteen minutes after that. I guess it really hit home for me because I’m getting married on Halloween and I placed myself in Maggie’a shoes. All I could think of was “Oh my god, how would I react if this was my fiancé?”.

    • Claudia Nichter October 24, 2016 at 5:32 am - Reply

      My husband also suffers from PTSD, so last night was alittle rough. I knew Glenn would happen cuz of the comic but when it was Abe, for a sec I thought they changed their minds. But when Negan said I told you…I said loud OMG…cuz I new it was coming. But when Glenn said those last words to Maggie, my hands just went over my eyes and I cried and cried, my husband just held me. I went to bed think the same as you, what if it was my husband. I fell asleep crying. But congrats on ur upcoming nuptials. Live life and be happy.

  19. Heysteffie October 23, 2016 at 9:17 pm - Reply

    That was the most intense show I’ve ever seen. Killing Glenn was overkill. It was one thing I wished the series didn’t regurgitate from the comic. Feeling numb and not very excited about future episodes. Don’t want to see Rick, Daryl and the clan being Negan’s bitch.

  20. Bass66 October 23, 2016 at 9:21 pm - Reply

    The best Walking Dead episode in my opinion…gore, blood, walkers, villains, vulnerability and no mercy.
    I really didn’t feel any kind of emotion when Abe died, it felt like ”why waste this scene in the comics with Abe dying instead of Glen?”
    And then POW, Glen joins faceoff with Abe….then i was satisfied, this episode could not just end with Abe dead.
    Also did anyone notice as Negan’s crew were leaving, one of his goons took a picture of Glen’s decapitated body….which reminds me of a scene in season 6 when Rick and co raided one of Negan’s outposts. When Glen stabbed one of the guys sleeping there were pictures of decapitated bodies (i knew right away that it was Lucille, beeing a follower of the comics). This was probably the only clue that the show gave us to make us think that Glen was going to go.
    anyways awsome episode!!!!

  21. AlphaWolf October 23, 2016 at 9:32 pm - Reply

    Glenn’s dying breaths used to tell Maggie he’ll find her was just plain heartwrenching and a perfect departure for his pure soul.

  22. Catherinejhlee October 23, 2016 at 9:50 pm - Reply

    Oh my god! It’s too sucks. I’m just remembering Glen’s shaking fingers. T_T Damn! Kill negan! I’ve loved “the waiking dead ” all season. But I guit from now. Fucking terrible the new season.

  23. LOLWUTAREYOUDOIN October 23, 2016 at 10:04 pm - Reply

    I hated the idea of a double death because even if you didn’t know who was going to die, it was obvious that one of the deaths was going to overshadow the other in terms of emotional impact. It should have just been Glenn and then that’s it – since that part was very well done. Nothing else was needed, since Abe’s death felt more like an afterthought that was just kind of thrown in. That said, it was still a good episode.

  24. Neutral-Grey October 23, 2016 at 10:38 pm - Reply

    Still gonna stick to my guns that the season finale cliffhanger was one of the worst TV writing decisions ever. And it’s sort of shitty to make people wait 6-7 months to see someone die when everyone and their grandmother at this point knew it was him in the comics. For fuck’s sake, Yahoo ran an article about it with spoilers right in the title in preparation for the season 6 finale.

    HOWEVER. My adrenaline rush is very pleased. Brilliant blindside (even if Spoiling Dead still figured out it out). Two deaths for the price of one. Comics came to life and it was every bit as sick and twisted. Didn’t quite get that hit to the jaw where Glenn’s teeth ended up all over the ground but still. And “Maggie, I’ll find you” instead of screaming her name was a nice touch. And Abe’s last peace sign to Sasha… Gah, it was great.

    NOW. On to the matter of Daryl. It was his fault Glenn died. Negan did it but they were surrounded by over 50 men all armed. A teenage boy was also in that situation and he could shut the fuck up and listen so as not to put them in danger. (A teenage boy who was ready for his dad to chop his fucking arm off, mind you.) But this fully grown man put in a situation where they very likely could ALL die couldn’t control his outburst, despite the massive danger it put them in? Should have been him.

  25. Roflsauce October 23, 2016 at 11:27 pm - Reply

    Bad opener, lots of wasted time, disgusting, no plot, did I mention disgusting?
    Are you really catering to the sick sadistic fucks on the internet with this episode?
    Used to be a fan of the show, no longer want to watch smut like this.

  26. Tonnie2NA October 23, 2016 at 11:45 pm - Reply

    I was a big fan of last season’s finale, and this premier was thoroughly satisfying. I am sick to my stomach and fucking pissed off. I want to bite Negan’s throat out and shoot every one of his men in the knee caps and leave them for dead, everything I felt while reading the comics. All I want is all out war, but I know that’ll take until at least next season.
    As far as predictions go: I can’t imagine anything meaningful happening in the next few episodes. Kingdom development, lots of mourning, Daryl being tortured in strange ways, trying to figure out how to kill negan, and of course Spencer’s death. Mid season finale will probably be Rick meeting with Big Z and Carl’s shooting spree. Then it’ll just be the fucking dope story arch of March to war that’ll occupy the second half of the season.
    As a comic fan and a fan of the show, FUCK YES!!! Love the way things are going

    • Tonnie2NA October 23, 2016 at 11:49 pm - Reply

      Oh, the ONLY thing I was upset about was the whole
      Carl thing. They should have fucking cut his stupid arm off. The second Negan started going down that road I said “yes, that’s the perfect way to set him apart as truly someone who NEEDS to die”
      What a fucking waste!

      • Neutral-Grey October 24, 2016 at 12:11 am - Reply

        I think you’re not giving Negan enough credit here. There’s a fine line between breaking someone and destroying someone. If Negan killed Abe, Glenn, made Rick do that shit with the axe, THEN cut off Carl’s arm then he risked destroying Rick’s spirit so completely the will to live would be gone. If that spark is gone then Negan doesn’t have the working drone he wants, he just has a walker who doesn’t know they’re a walker yet. You have to give them a spark of hope. Show them you can be “reasonable.” Because otherwise people tend to learn “learned helplessness,” a behavior pattern in which victims exhibit no will to fight back against suffering or even do anything at ALL because it’s pointless. Either way, the result is misery and pain. Negan can’t have that.

        Furthermore, think about it. The story of Abraham and Isaac. God told Abraham to kill Isaac to show his devotion to Him. Abraham didn’t want to kill his son. Isaac certainly didn’t want to fucking die. But Abraham continued to go through with it because God is God. Then God tells him to stop. By going through the motions, Abraham proved his loyalty. But if Abraham wasn’t stopped by God and killed his son don’t you think that would have left lingering resentment in Abraham? Why would anyone want to worship a God who told you to kill your own son and then let you? Negan did the same thing. He broke Rick. Forced him to make up his mind. Forced Rick to pick up that axe and ALMOST CUT HIS OWN SON’S ARM OFF so others wouldn’t die. Then Negan stops him. Rick just showed his loyalty. Had he allowed him to continue then there would almost be no chance of inspiring any genuine loyalty in Rick later because he would have given Rick ZERO HOPE to work with. Negan’s not that dumb, though. Don’t you see what Negan was doing? He just made himself Rick’s fucking GOD.

  27. AnimalMother696 October 23, 2016 at 11:53 pm - Reply

    Absolute dog piss. Glad to confidently say I can unburden myself with this lurching shit stack of a show. Ash vs Evil Dead & Candle Cove are super satisfying!

  28. Trooperkev19 October 24, 2016 at 1:46 am - Reply

    I got the deaths spoiled for me what seems like forever ago, and still, this is the best episode of the Walking dead ever. Even knowing who would die didn’t ruin it for me. 11/10. This ep didn’t just live up to the hype, it surpassed it. Lauren Cohan was AMAZING. So happy with this episode. Made up for the cliffhanger and then some. Huge thanks to everyone involved.

  29. seanmathews1 October 24, 2016 at 2:54 am - Reply

    Love all the “I’m done” comments. A) You’ll be back next week. Not fooling anyone. B) It’s a zombie apocalypse survival show. What the hell did you expect? Everyone to grow old and sit around at the dinner table?

    You know, Downtown Abbey regularly killed off major characters – a British period drama. I bet they had less sissy’s whining than this.

    I’ve got some bad news for you… More major characters are going to die. So get used to it. It’s a fact we’ve been dealing with in the comics for ages.

    But seriously, what did you expect? And Negan has a barbed wire baseball bat. You think he uses it as a walking stick?

    I will say I like the touch that Daryl caused Geln’s death.

  30. Hogg Head October 24, 2016 at 4:01 am - Reply

    Well, I was pissed how the finale ended, and still am. Simply said, Negan should have killed Abraham, at least, in the finale. Crushing Glenn in this episode would have a brutal impact. Here, it did not touch me that much, to be honest. Abe just died and I knew he was going to. I wasn’t looking for spoilers, spoilers found me, damn, whole YouTube is full of it and you don’t even need to watch to videos, just read a title and you know who’s a dead man!
    Glenn’s death was more touching. I get it that Abraham had to die. He would never break like Rick did, he would probably just started shooting at Negan once he entered Alexandria. Still, his death caused by Dwight really tormented me in the comic. Here? Not really.
    Both Andrew Lincoln and JDM nailed it, especially in the end, Negan really destroyed Rick. Thumbs up here, I thought that Rick was going to sacrifice himself and cut his own hand instead of Carl’s. Rick’s comic character is just a beast – fighting Negan, Marauders and going berserk when Jessie died, that was simply huge, because ha had only one hand. Never mind, though.
    A Savior photoshooting Glenn’s body is a freak. The aftermath, Maggie’s goodbye to Alexandria and lunch scene were excellent. See you next week, however, the bitterness will never disappear.
    Btw, Negan, just kill Hillary before she provokes WW III.

    • Hogg Head October 24, 2016 at 4:06 am - Reply

      And yeah, to AMC: Think about this. You don’t want to pull a similar trick on “heads on spikes” scene, when its time comes. Because you know, that people would gain knowledge on who’s dead before the episode even aired. So, don’t do this ever again.

  31. CORAL October 24, 2016 at 4:41 am - Reply

    Fucking Daryl, always fucking everything up. Aside from the full retard mode from Daryl, the episode was fantastic. I was so sure Rick was going to get his hand chopped. When he said that Negan could cut his, I thought Negan was going to stop Rick from cutting Carl’s hand and then would take the axe and cut Rick’s arm off. I just loved how Carl was so fucking cold. Just looking at his dad and going “Just go dad”. Now, let’s talk about the heavy shit. When Dwight killed Denise instead of Abraham, I was so sure that they had plans for him on AOW. So that led me to think that Glenn also could play a part in AOW. My ideal kill would be Daryl, as that would be the best way to kill him and would be the biggest shocker in TWD history. It being probably the biggest event in the comic, a big character like Daryl would be the perfect fit, as it would open a lot of possibilities for other characters. I just fell that Daryl gets to many storylines that belongs to other characters. If he died, we could have seen Abraham slowly become Rick’s “right hand man”(pun intended) like the comic. But whatever, I’m totally ok with killing Abraham. I was sad because I really wanted to see him play a part in AOW, but it really was a great death. However, what I’m not okay with is that they killed TWO big characters that
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    died in the comics and didn’t get to have a part in All Out War. Imagine Abraham fighting or Glenn going for supplies runs. I understand that if Glenn was still alive Maggie probably wouldn’t become the hilltop leader, so I guess it was okay to kill him. But they should have killed only one of them in my opinion or killed Glenn/Abraham and a character exclusive from the TV show.
    I can see people that didn’t read the comic totally disagreeing with me on this point, but I’m saying this as a massive comics fan who would love to see Glenn and/or Abraham fight in AOW.

    • zombiehead_motorwalk October 24, 2016 at 5:59 am - Reply

      Daryl has just done like a normal action in a sick situation. I think Negan respect it. After all Daryl seen Negan do – he still has the courage to protest against him. You can’t blame him. Because after all- we go through all kinds of reaction in a sick situation like this. Probably all there is. But Negan surprised them all. Now they know who they are dealing with. It’s just stupid blame people who care for the group. Blame fucking Negan.

      • Neutral-Grey October 24, 2016 at 10:58 am - Reply

        No, I’m abso-fucking-lutely going to blame Daryl. He’s gotten too many free passes because he’s some kind of heart throb but this isn’t the first time he put lives in danger. They were surrounded by over 50 men, ALL armed. What in the Hell did he think was going to happen? He couldn’t for one moment consider that lashing out might have consequences for someone other than him? He just witnessed Abe take one “or six or seven” for the team.

        I’m tired of Daryl’s “oh no, he’s being affected by a death he feels personally responsible for in some way routine” (Beth, Denise, Sophia, etc.) It’s boring.

  32. Claudia Nichter October 24, 2016 at 5:12 am - Reply

    The only thing that would have last night episode 100% perfect, would have if the censors would have let JDM be true Negan and let him cuss like he does in the comics. All that was missing was Negan saying “Fuck Fuckity Fuck Fuck! We will shut that FUCKING shit down”.

    Other than that, it’s now 5am and I woke thinking about this Ep. I usually watch each Ep at least once a day for the whole until next Ep, but I don’t think I can do it this time. Great Job TWD best Ep ever

  33. ncontess October 24, 2016 at 8:14 am - Reply

    Coming from someone who didn’t hate the finale cliffhanger because I did enjoy the conversation and the 6 month agony of theories and talking and avoiding spoilers, I think the most impact would have been if at the end of the finale was we saw Abraham was the first victim. Show Abraham’s eyes as he says suck my nuts and gets whacked and then end it. AND THEN have the premier exactly as you had it so that the Glenn part is a complete shock, everyone is morning the death of Abe and out of nowhere Daryl attacks and Glenn dies too. That being said, Incredible and Disturbing. JDM may be the best performer on this show. Can’t believe we still have an entire season left. Anyone else have a headache, stomach pain and a broken heart?

  34. Onelessfan October 24, 2016 at 8:37 am - Reply

    To Whom it May Concern at AMC & The Walking Dead,

    Last night’s season 7 premiere will be the last episode I ever watch of The Walking Dead. Now, let me tell you why.

    As a fan of the show, I have watched every episode of TWD and like many others was hooked from the very beginning. That being said, I have also felt that the show peaked at the end of season 2. To me, the shows direction as well as the writing had been superb to that point. Since that time, I have seen a steady decline in what I find to be interesting in the shows writing. To me, the most captivating story-line the show ever had, died with Shane at the hands of Rick in that ever so famous scene in the moonlit field at the farm. Although the show since that point has held my interest enough to keep watching, I kept finding myself unimpressed and underwhelmed as to where the story was going. It has seemed very redundant, with the build up of an enemy faction or group and the villianization of their leader in order for the audience to feel a sense of redemption once that villain is killed. An effective plot device, but not when its the format to every season since. Of course I know the majority of the writing for the show has already been written due to it being very closely based on the graphic novel, so perhaps my decision to never watch again can be directed at Mr. Kirkman (I would love for him to read this).

    I apologize for the long-winded build up to my reason to never watch the show again but here is the culmination of my thoughts: The way in which Abraham and Glenn were killed (more so Glenn) was the most disturbing thing I have ever seen on television or otherwise in my life. I will never be able to shake the image of Glenn and his last words to his on screen wife and how sickened I felt and still feel thinking about it. You might be thinking now that the show has then succeeded by making it something I, (your audience) will never forget. However, when you rely completely on shock value to retain your audience, then the show has failed. In this moment everything became clear to me as to why I felt the show has declined since the end of season 2. The show is relying completely on shock value now and is once again building up the villain (Negan) in order to most certainly tear him down and vindicate the audience….again. Censorship is one thing, but sensibility to your audience should never be taken so irresponsibly.

    I believe whomever approved this scene for television, whether it be a single person or a group, has made a huge mistake. Quite frankly I feel like they should pay for my therapy so I can at least try to forget what I saw. Just because you can push the envelope doesn’t always mean you should, especially when its at the cost of what at one time was a really good show. To those concerned at TWD and AMC, you have one less viewer because of your decision to air that scene.

    Thank you for two excellent seasons,

    -One less fan

  35. Undersolo October 24, 2016 at 8:55 am - Reply

    First, I will say I called at least one death: Abraham.
    Motherdick, I am gonna miss him.

    Second, Glenn’s death was a raw flashback to the comic book. The whole eye bugging out and the last words to Maggie – although a little different – were quite moving.

    Finally…
    There is a lot of commentary here and online about how violent this episode was and how it was “torture porn” and not drama.

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    You sound like the same wimps who complained when they did not show the initial bludgeoning at the end of season six. You could not wait to feast on the blood and gore, and when they finally give it to you, you back away.
    Pathetic. It is like watching a petulant child refusing to eat something that they have been screaming for in a restaurant.

    Now, did they go to far?

    Again, are you fucking kidding me?

    It is called “The Walking Dead”, not “The Walking Sonny and Cher Show”. Go back to your complete DVD set of “Friends” if this show is too much for you. And anyone dumb enough to write to AMC or Robert Kirkman to let them know that they will no longer be watching is again an idiot. Let’s see: you saw people being eaten alive, a boy almost raped, throats ripped out, people used for food, limbs removed, bodies maimed, and eyes gouged out by sword and bullet. And this episode pushed you too far?

    Too stupid to comment on…

    I look forward to this season, and you will stay tuned.

    #NeganLives

  36. Marilynbleu October 24, 2016 at 9:40 am - Reply

    What a great episode and great way to set the tone for this season and moving forward! I was originally somewhat mad about them not getting to the death right away, but it made sense to show Negan first after Lucille was fed. I say this because when we finally got to Negan killing Abe and Glenn I thought he was going to go for a 3rd but then it went to the opening scene and I knew it was done for now.

    I knew it was going to be Abraham but I was very set on it being Maggie too. I am more sad though as Abraham/Michael looks and reminds me alot of my father (red hair and handlebar stache) so it will be sad not seeing him on screen anymore.

    here is to a great season!

  37. Remington October 24, 2016 at 9:46 am - Reply

    It doesn’t piss everyone else off that with small changes this cliffhanger/season premiere would’ve been epic?
    Literally all they had to do was show Abe getting smashed last season and start this season the exact same way and all their “wait til the premiere to judge” talk would make sense.
    Did I hate the premiere? No. But I definitely don’t think their cliffhanger was justified. They did it for $ and to blackmail their already loyal fans into watching. I’d give the finale a 2/10, the premiere a 9/10, to average out at a lackluster 5-6/10 for the intro of the biggest baddest villain ever. Smh.

    I will say Carl telling his dad to just chop his arm off already was badass. I’ve been a Carl-hater for years but he’s finally come into his own. Hoping he takes over the cutthroat attitude we’re missing since Carol went crazy.

    • Hogg Head October 24, 2016 at 10:50 am - Reply

      Agreed. Carl was ready to make a sacrifice.

    • Neutral-Grey October 24, 2016 at 11:05 am - Reply

      Definitely agreed I mean, past this point my excitement for the TV show adaptation is certainly close to dead. I’m not sure I’ll even be tuning in for every episode this season.

      I’m not going to quit because I’m horrified or in shock or some other stupid bullshit. I just think past this point there’s not any other big moment I’m really looking forward to. I mean, they already butchered with the finale. They restored some of the wind with the premiere but it was still a terrible decision and while I thought the premiere was great, it still doesns’t 100% recover from its previous blunder.

  38. NeganKilledMe42 October 24, 2016 at 10:12 am - Reply

    Did anyone else notice the letter D on the bottom end of Lucille?

  39. Steven119 October 24, 2016 at 10:37 am - Reply

    When Rick was told to get the axe why was there an axe on top of the RV?

  40. GrimesTime October 24, 2016 at 11:17 am - Reply

    …. Brilliant the whole thing was just brilliant. It was an hour long heart attack the way they teased of the death for so long before telling us who got it. By far the most Iconic,Miserable,compelling, bloody moment in the history of TWD. lol let our fate never waver in kirkman, gimple and Greg again they are obviously in full control of this thing. JDM has brought Negan straight off the page and its FUCKING AWESOME!!. the show is just getting started and im ready for the ride. RIP GLENN, RIP ABRAHAM.

  41. mattbeef October 24, 2016 at 11:41 am - Reply

    It was good ep, but I still feel like this should have happened in the finale not the premiere. The cliffhanger ruined what was one of the most impactful moments of the comics for me. The leaks were so bad, I knew in advance. I saw it in a comments section of a random TWD article. Wasn’t looking for it. Knowing in advance made it very so-so for me. I’m looking forward to moving past this into the rest of the season, but fuck the cliffhanger……it was a senseless gimmick that was bound to leak. TWD is an amazing, well thought out, well written story as is…just tell it. Please no more writer room hack gimmicks and stunts.

  42. Hogg Head October 24, 2016 at 11:44 am - Reply

    Just a thought, I like that Negan “claimed” Daryl. In the comic book, Negan didn’t capture anyone (if I don’t count Carl’s little adventure), so Rick ambushed Negan in the end, starting the war. Now, he will have to think twice, because attempting to kill Negan could end Daryl’s life.

  43. Kayla1116 October 24, 2016 at 12:25 pm - Reply

    Honestly Im a HUGE walkingdead fan since it first started and Im really starting to get really upset two people die the first episode are you fucxing kidding way overdone and they made Rick look weak, on top of it all its not even about the WALKERS ANYMORE its always war with other people everyone is supposed to come together and kill WALKER form a new population of ppl now they gotta fight another Governor type of dude UGH I hate to say this but walking dead might just lose my view…. Just stupid Im highly upset…

    • BASTET. October 24, 2016 at 1:03 pm - Reply

      Every HUGE Walking Dead fan knows it has never been about the WALKERS.

      • Neutral-Grey October 24, 2016 at 6:26 pm - Reply

        For real. Never forget what Rick said. “We are the Walking Dead.”

        The walkers have never been the biggest conflict. It’s repeated so many times in so many different mediums in TWD. I think TWD game summed it up nicely: “The dead don’t kill their own. It’s the living you gotta watch out for.”

        I think that was the significance in the finale scene, too. That single walker stumbling out of the woods. Rick can kill it but he doesn’t. He looks too tired to bother. Because in that moment a mere walker just seems so unimportant to the problems they now face.

        • Mark Jackson October 25, 2016 at 4:41 pm - Reply

          OMG Grey you just gave me an idea, so if they cover themselves in walker guts the dead can’t smell them right? What if they covered a walker in live guts, would the other walkers try to eat them? Lol that would be pretty funny

          • Neutral-Grey October 25, 2016 at 6:08 pm

            I’ve… I’ve never really considered that before, honestly. I mean, I would think so. Or at the very least they would try to eat the fresh guts and organs on that zombie and if a few extra bites came out of the walker as a result then no other walker would be bothered by it.

  44. MikeLacey October 24, 2016 at 12:36 pm - Reply

    I doubt that the cliffhanger was done to blackmail anyone – but, having said that, I do think it was a mistake. Having Abe die in the finale of S6 and then Glenn in the S7 premiere would have been even more gut wrenching and a complete shock. That twist alone would have stunned me.

    Anyway, it’s done now, issue #100 has been officially topped – and in an incredible way. Rick looked more helpless and lost than we’ve ever seen him. Carl was convincingly braver than is humanly possible. Maggie – words fail me. Poor Daryl will never forgive himself. And Abe, Abe was awesome, and unforgettable.

    So, I think we should let Mr Gimple off the hook.

    But not Kirkman, never forget that Kirkman is probably going to put Rosita’s head on a stick.

  45. JessPaige October 24, 2016 at 12:47 pm - Reply

    I’m still not emotionally stable. I really wish they wouldn’t have followed the comics.

    (By the way, I made a reaction video if you want to watch it) https://youtu.be/z3phRIB0FI8

  46. Limse October 24, 2016 at 12:59 pm - Reply

    This episode made me remember why we hated so much Negan back then… And even worse !

  47. Jadedjen October 24, 2016 at 1:23 pm - Reply

    It was definitely true to their world and life episode. My biggest gripe is the bull shit cliff hanger last season. And the EP’s promising that the finale was about breaking Rick down. Bull shit! This episode was the shattering of Rick. I still say the final was a cheap gimmick pulled on loyal fans. With that being said, for as brutal and Heartwrenching as this episode was, it was amazing. All the actors totally nailed their parts. I love Abraham. And Glenn. And I love the sense of responsibility that Rick holds for them all, whether new to the group or there from the start. He got arrogant. It cost him. He fell off the beam in season 6,and now he sees that… I also don’t believe it was entirely Daryl’s fault that Glenn got killed. Negan obviously wasn’t done having his fun. That’s why he was taunting Rosita. He was just waiting for the smallest excuse to jump in and do more damage. Daryl provided that chance… Ultimately tho, it was Eugene’s reaction that made me bust out loud crying. And then Daryl’s face during Glenn’s beating… And watching the emotions in all of them during the talking dead, seeing how invested they are, the lengths they’ll go to for the show, the real life bond they have, just made it all the more poignant and wrenching…

    But here’s to a painful season with no more bull shit cheap tricks pulled by the EP’s…

    • AlphaWolf October 24, 2016 at 3:40 pm - Reply

      I watch every episode and read the comics so I guess that makes me a “loyal fan” too but I still don’t get this whole finale cliffhanger hate. Walking Dead didn’t owe me anything and it kept me speculating all break long. Negan is a man of his word so I do believe that he would have been done after taking Abraham out. Daryl cost the group a second life.

  48. BarbaLucy October 24, 2016 at 1:35 pm - Reply

    Amazing… Everything they said the premier would be.
    I finally understood that the episode wasn’t about killing 2 people, it was about breaking Rick. As a matter of fact it should have been titled “The Breaking of Rick Grimes”. Now the question is, when or if we ever see Rick come back from this state. Andrew deserves an award for his portrayal of a man completely out of his mind with fear. Lauren also, her reaction to Glenn’s death, while being sick and having also witnessed the other atrocities was the best. I can see why it took so long to shoot this scene.

  49. normadpalen October 24, 2016 at 3:26 pm - Reply

    I believe the brutality of killings was an over kill. And I literally mean that. We have grown to care for these characters and such a grotesque beating was not nesassary. It was beneath the quality of this show. Others feel this way as well.

  50. ricardo colombo October 24, 2016 at 4:02 pm - Reply

    Abraham was, by far, my favorite character in the comics and later the show. When his comic death was handed to someone else, I thought “awesome, we’re going to see Abraham in the mix against Negan”. Only for about 5 minutes. Bitch nuts. Well, it was a glorious death scene for my man Abraham. That’s about the best you can hope for in the zombie apocalypse. The second death surprised me from a viewer’s perspective, but I am glad that they kept to the comic story line with Glenn. Trying not to spoil anything, but when I say I’m glad it’s purely from a story moving forward standpoint.

  51. Kyle81283 October 24, 2016 at 5:28 pm - Reply

    My wife and I have been fans since the show started. The show has definitely had it’s ups and downs, but overall it was a great show. A lot of fans like myself are okay with a certain amount of violence. Obviously, since it’s a zombie apocalypse we expect it.

    What happened last night though was beyond violent. That felt more like fan punishment. My wife, friends, and family members have had some great conversations over the past day discussing the episode. We unanimously agree we’re done with the show. That wasn’t a sociopathic example of Negan, or simply the breaking of Rick. That was the beginning of the end for WD. I find it frightening that AMC allowed such a horrific scene. Beyond that, the psychological games the scene contained with Rick being forced to nearly cut off Carl’s arm was sick.

    Seriously, people who dream stuff up on this level ought to be put in a mental facility. Sick stuff guys. Real sick. I honestly feel bad for the actors that they were put through that. Hope you guys lose at least 30-40% of your viewers over it. From my crowd of friends I know you lost the majority. To paraphrase Abe, “Suck my nuts WD.”

    • Neutral-Grey October 24, 2016 at 6:30 pm - Reply

      The fact that you lack the ability and imagination to be able to remove violent stories from the people who make them and think anyone capable of even thinking up these things belongs in some kind of mental asylum says a lot more for your judgmental ass than it does any writer in TWD staff room.

      • Kyle81283 October 25, 2016 at 9:18 am - Reply

        It’s not a matter of separating fact and fiction. I get that this is the internet and a lot of you feel your opinions are valid and correct, but that simply isn’t the case. That episode, was horribly written, showed no respect to long time fans, and was wholely different than anything they’ve done before. We expect violence, crazy gore, and tense moments. What we saw Sunday night was the glorification of something evil. Even down to the scene with Carl’s arm.

        Now if you don’t get that I feel pretty sad for you. Then again America is filled with a lot of crazy bastards who should be put in straight jackets as opposed to being given meds. You can say it makes me judgmental, but look at the news some day. I just read recently a Breaking Bad fan killed a cop in a tub of acid to replicate a scene from the show. How long before some twisted prick starts swinging around a “Lucille?”

        I personally believe TWD went for shock and awe because they were starting to lose viewers to shows like Game of Thrones. Well, based on the polls I’ve seen thus far; good freaking luck. They’ll make their money for a little while longer, but this is going to go down as the shows turning point.

        • Neutral-Grey October 25, 2016 at 6:06 pm - Reply

          You have very little knowledge of the source material if you want to talk about not having “respect” for the fans. Anything less would have been an insult they couldn’t afford after that botched finale.

          Terribly written? How? Because you couldn’t handle it? Because it made your stomach turn? Because it made you uncomfortable? In that situation tell me what was implausible. Nothing about it was terribly written just because it was terrible to watch. If you don’t get that I feel pretty sad for you… and everyone you have to interact with who endures that self righteousness.

          And yeah, I’m done. Your comment on the straight jackets and meds shows me you don’t know the first fucking 1% of knowledge about mental health. Fiction doesn’t create violence. Those who find inspiration in it are already violent to begin with. Fiction shouldn’t have to castrate itself for you or anyone’s’ sensibilities. Bye.

          • Kyle81283 October 25, 2016 at 11:06 pm

            Bro, your butt hurt? It was terribly written. The show is about the fans. Why do you think there was so much upset with the dumpster seen? This is the beginning of the end for TWD. They killed off a fan favorite and went with the grain they’d been going against that made the show unpredictable and epic. If you want to sit on that high and mighty horse about source material than please explain why they suddenly decided to go along with the comic after 6 seasons of compromise? Keep pounding your keyboard though you little shit. I’m going to feed off that as long as you keep it up lol. And are you a fucking retard? The violence is expected. I’ve seen more cruel shit produced by ISIS. That’s not the issue. Maybe you should call Kirkman and Gimple and see if they need a blow job. You sure seem like that’d be up your alley as hard as your defending that crap episode.

          • Neutral-Grey October 26, 2016 at 12:03 pm

            Lol, so you can’t produce a reason, bring up an actual shit episode as comparison but don’t say WHY it’s that bad and then babble on using words like “butt hurt” and “retard.” Jesus Christ, ad hominem, much? Or do you even know what means?

            I don’t much care for the show. You’d know that if you read my other comments. And yeah, no, you lost. At this point you’re just flinging insults. You made your point in your first comment. You got called out. You have yet to make a decent counter argument. Maybe they decided to finally stick to the source material because the scene was far too iconic and wanted by fans to ignore. There’s a reason it keeps getting compared to the “Red Wedding.” And you say “6 seasons of compromise” like this is the first time they’ve shown something explicitly terrible? Shit, Noah’s death was an original and it was worse than a lot of comic deaths.

            Get over it. Jesus. If it hurt your fee fees and made you want to cry in your pillow it’s fine. If you can’t handle the “glorification” of violence then fucking don’t and go somewhere else. But don’t act like it’s everyone else’s problem then insult them when you get called out. Sorry you can’t handle it. The show will be mediocre, as always, with or without you. No one is waiting for your viewership with bated breath. But with that self-righteousness of yours I’m sure you’d think so, huh?

            Go hide under a dumpster with Glenn. I’m sure he’s waiting to spring back into action under there.

    • BASTET. October 25, 2016 at 3:06 am - Reply

      Some of you can’t handle it… I get it. It was brutal & not all of us can handle that & that’s the normal spectrum of being human. I can’t be mad at you. But don’t you guys insult the people who brought us The Walking Dead or any other show, movie, book, or whatever just because YOU can’t handle it! You stop watching, go your own way, & leave it at that.
      Jeez, I hate to think of what you guys are missing out on–Stephen King, Eli Roth, Tobe Hooper, John Carpenter, Sam Raimi, Clive Barker, Rob Zombie…
      Or do you watch that & it’s OK? Some people do that, not realizing that it’s more brutal on a show for which you have more attachment to the characters. Maybe you should think about why one act among others makes you feel the way you do. Would it have been the same if that was a hated enemy’s death dealt by Rick or Daryl?
      Either way, you stuck with the show for 6 years… think about the other deaths, psychological tactics, sexual implications, etc. you’ve seen & accepted & have a little respect.

  52. domenico.w.palumbo@gmail October 24, 2016 at 5:58 pm - Reply

    Much like remaking a classic movie this episode always was going to be difficult to live up to the comic… and it did. The acting was brilliant, the script was excellent and despite the limitations of basic cable I didn’t feel cheated. The path to break these characters I think was also intended to break the audience. A reboot and a reminder of what the world they live in is and what the audience is watching… A ZOMBIE Horror survival show based on a COMIC!!!! The reviews that are negative or talk of empty violence are more shocking than the 2 deaths! The storytelling that was given to us was specail and Nothing was empty about how that episode made me feel. The violence is what I signed up for and Negan is the main event. Bravo to Scott and Kirk for having the Balls to give real fans what they deserved. Bravo!!!!

    • Onelessfan October 24, 2016 at 6:32 pm - Reply

      This has nothing to do with being a “real” fan and a little more to do with having just some fraction of sensibility to your audience. If being a “real” fan means they have to show such an act of cheap shock value with such an over the top scene, then I don’t want to be associated with being a “real” fan.

      • ricardo colombo October 25, 2016 at 7:42 pm - Reply

        Hardly an act of cheap shock value. If it didn’t float your boat, I get it. But, given the things that we see humans do to humans in the non-fictional world where there is civilization and law around to thwart such behavior, I’d say that it is more apt to say that the creators nailed the brutality that would exist in the world of their creation.

  53. carlyyougoonie October 24, 2016 at 8:23 pm - Reply

    Beautiful, heartbreaking and everything I wanted out of this episode.

  54. yabadak October 25, 2016 at 5:16 am - Reply

    Great episode from comics perception. And I know it sucks for TV viewers. looool.
    I first started folowing TWD through TV show and then I switched to comics. Glad to.
    And I quick realize that are too much of deviations on TV show(diferent timeline, caracters, deaths etc.).
    So, my backbone of TWD are comics. But on the other side of story I can understand TV fans. Their anger obviously derives from 6 seasons of caracter building. We should all know this are HD motion pictures and not some 2D greyline pencil drown white piece of paper. Good job Kirkman!

  55. Thurisaz October 25, 2016 at 5:38 am - Reply

    That was fucking brutal. After Abraham got it, I was like, “At least it’s over now.” Then when Daryl went after Negan, I began to feel sick to my stomach because it seemed certain he was going to get it. Then… it got worse. I felt they had some fun toying with the audiences expectations. Not only did they make us think Daryl was going to die, but then made us think Negan was going to do Rick what the Governor did to him in the comics. Negan is just a sadistic motherfucker. Seeing him break Rick down like that is just so emotionally draining. Seeing those bashed in heads is so gut-wrenching, but it hits homes that Negan means business No punches pulled this episode.

  56. Hard Case October 25, 2016 at 11:55 am - Reply

    So, here’s the real question…by season’s end – does TV version Rick let Negan live like in the comic? Or does he off him?

  57. Brandox471 October 25, 2016 at 9:06 pm - Reply

    I found the whole episode completely over done. I certainly understood that we were going to lose a major character and Glenn’s dying to me was, well, finally. But the whole thing with being forced to watch a bully knowing that nothing was going to happen to him, at least for now, that was just too much. I can put it in context of someone beating up a boy on the football field and all of his buddies are pointing guns at us so we cannot stop it from happening. Why is that something I want to watch on TV? If I want to watch that I could just flip over and watch the news. While I understand that there is going to be “bad” guys in the show most of them we could sympathize with at least. This was just a blatant act to get people on the hook to watch so that they could see when Negan finally gets his. I for one am not sure if I will be around when that happens. Not sure that it is worth it.

  58. GrimesTime October 26, 2016 at 10:24 am - Reply

    lol wow are people really that upset about how graphic those deaths were ?? compared to the comic it isnt graphic enough. Its a Zombie apocalypse wtf are you expecting to happen?? want them to break out in song and dance?? lol that stance is hilarious to me, if thats the case you dont need to be watching period. ta ta ..

  59. sevenofnine October 26, 2016 at 10:45 am - Reply

    OK I liked the episode even if it was excessively gory, but here’s the thing… Greg N. and team Really messed with us again and I think that may be the real reason fans are outraged by the violence. We knew we were going to suffer a loss and probably be really hurt by it, but it wasn’t handled well and here’s why; everyone knows that Daryl is a hothead, so it would be completely in character for him to attack Negan to try to save someone’s life right? So why didn’t he attack him DURING THE BEATING? Why was there a long pause between the end of the beating and Daryl’s move on Negan? I’ll tell you why. They wanted us to believe for a moment that Glenn was safe – not cool guys. This action made Daryl look like a moron, made Abe’s death meaningless (cause we all know Abe sort of offered himself as the victim by his posturing) and killed Glenn needlessly. So when we have to watch the terrifying brutality suffered by our beloved characters, it makes us sick. I hate that they did this because it devalues Abe’s sacrifice and took Glenn from Maggie (and us) for no reason. That’s messed up. And to Greg and company… I DON’T FORGIVE YOU!

  60. sevenofnine October 26, 2016 at 11:50 am - Reply

    Addendum: now if you want to make it up to us, just make those death scenes part of Rick’s imagining what could have happened instead of what actually did happen and all will be forgiven… I’m just sayin’

  61. Steven119 October 26, 2016 at 12:42 pm - Reply

    That’s what I love about TWD.. the shock value. People were expecting one death when it’s actually two and for a beloved character to die was doubly shocking. I’m glad I don’t read the comics. Comparing it to the comics would just make the whole experience less shocking.

  62. sevenofnine October 26, 2016 at 3:02 pm - Reply

    I don’t go online much for this stuff. This is only the 2nd time I joined one of these conversations and that one was for Star Wars. I’m only doing do now because I was curious what everyone thought about this and I felt the need for a bit of comfort from my fellow viewers.It’s such a good show and nothing has really bothered me up until now.

  63. sevenofnine October 26, 2016 at 6:03 pm - Reply

    Wasn’t crazy about it because they spent so much time just driving around, but I think it was necessary to the overall set up to break Rick. He had to see that the Negan thing wasn’t what he thought and understood by the time they got to the field that they were way over their heads.

  64. seanmathews1 October 27, 2016 at 11:03 am - Reply

    I come back here every now and then to see how the conversation is going, and I still see more posting “I’m done, too gory, too dark, etc.”

    This really amazes me. I mean, where have you been for the other six seasons?

    Maggie almost get’s raped by the governor, Carl almost gets raped by a dude, Rick rips a guy’s neck out and NOW you draw the line?

    I mean seriously…. Michonne beheaded two living dudes, the governor gave the whack to Herschel… countless other bad things have happened, and now you scurry away? Was it because it was two deaths? Was it because it was Glenn? I mean seriously… you’d think the Maggie rape scene would emotionally hurt people more than this.

    I just don’t get it. The show has had plenty of other “dark” moments. Not to mention Rick’s massacre of the hunters which traumatized poor Gabriel. You don’t want to be like Gabriel, do you?

    At any rate… whatever. I sense some are giving in to mob mentality and going for attention. I still think it was one of the best episodes in the whole series and I can’t wait for all out war. Or that little shite Spencer to have his 15 minutes with Negan.

  65. BarbaLucy October 28, 2016 at 11:37 am - Reply

    Check out how emotional connected we are to a TV show! I actually had someone berate me for reaching out and sharing my opinions and observations on ” Something totally made up” in other words, I should be spending my time keeping up with the latest news and reach out to share my opinions and observations on that. Well who needs that kind of stress? My response was “We are the Walking Dead” followed by a vicious giggle. Sigh… then didn’t get it.
    Your comments are awesome. Even if I don’t agree with your viewpoints I can honestly say that some of what was said here made me really think about the show, and what happened to all the characters. Because of that, I changed my mind on something based on fact and reason that I read in these comments.
    Thanks for that. Keep posting!

  66. Brandox471 October 28, 2016 at 1:00 pm - Reply

    Well I have read through this and it seems that most fans of the show are having way too much fun attacking those who say they hated this episode. Comments like “Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out”. That is so productive. I really thought this might be a forum for discussing the episode.

    Well anyway after researching things I do understand the reasoning for killing 2 of the shows characters off. This does create the story arc needed to get Maggie going. My problem with it was that the camera didn’t need to linger on Glenn’s face that long. Yes there have been many other deaths to deal with on this show. However they didn’t play out this way. The shock value didn’t need to be brought out quite this way. The instant of Herschel’s death was quick and to the point. Even killing Abraham wasn’t quite a gruesome as Glenn’s. That is were most feel the line was crossed.

    On to my main issue with this season. We keep getting thrown tid-bits hinting that this season will remain dark like this first episode. I cannot picture me for one wanting to be drug through that dark ringer every week. I would like to think that we will get to see some silver lining sometimes instead of constant crushings of Negan and Lucille. Got to think they would run out of main story characters eventually that way as well.

    Anyway, keep talking folks. I am hoping someone shines a little light to give me a reason to want to keep watching. I will watch next week hoping to see Sheba at least.

    • BASTET. October 28, 2016 at 4:06 pm - Reply

      People will always be people, with the idea of “opinion” totally lost on them. The trick is to not take things personal. Personally, I like a good discussion with someone who has a difference in opinion. Usually makes me think of things in different perspectives I may not have considered before. There are a few of us here who will have a discussion/debate without attacking, as long as the respect is mutual… hard to find, but it does exist. So if you’re looking for that, don’t let the attacks scare you off. Some good conversation can be found here, if you look closely.

      I understand what you’re saying about the visual on Glenn. They had to hand Negan to us in a way that would make us feel exactly how horrible he is… which is worse than any bad guy before. I think the idea was to pull out heavy emotion in us. Part of that emotion was lost due to months of knowing & accepting that a death was coming, therefore, I think that this was an attempt at compensating for the cliffhanger. But not only that, I really believe that the effect it had was because of who Glenn was. Noah’s death was pretty gruesome, but who really loved Noah like Glenn? For me, if you really think about it, what we saw with Glenn is not that far off from what we’ve seen many times before over the years. It just happened with someone we have loved for years. Again, I pose the question: Would the negative reaction be the same if it was someone we hated, being killed by Rick or Daryl?

      This whole story with Negan is bound to be pretty dark. Ain’t gonna lie. But there is always that magic that happens throughout the show that shines through. Those are the bursts that make the show as awesome as it is. That is something to look forward to. And SHIVA… SHIVA is, too!!

    • Neutral-Grey October 31, 2016 at 9:16 pm - Reply

      Hey, you mentioned me without saying my name. <3

  67. sevenofnine October 28, 2016 at 3:34 pm - Reply

    Well, I don’t know if this is reason enough for you but, I’m going to keep watching because I like the show and want to see how our group evolves after this and especially what Carol decides to do with her life aftr she hears about what’s happened and of course I need to see Negan eventually get what’s coming to him. But if I don’t like the show’s new direction and/or the group’s evolution, they’ll loose me.

  68. AlphaWolf October 30, 2016 at 1:40 pm - Reply

    Personally I thought the deaths were well executed (no pun intended) and emotional to witness but the rest of the episode constantly teasing us with the possibility of Rick losing his hand was absolutely agonizing lol. Just when I think the fear has been alleviated Negan decides to call Carl over and my thought was that he was going to have Carl cut Rick’s hand off. Little do I know that Negan wants Rick to cut Carl’s hand/forearm off, queue the heart palpitations!

    • sevenofnine October 31, 2016 at 8:59 am - Reply

      Yeah, I still think the 2nd death was needless because the timing of Daryl’s attack made it a stupid move. If he had hit Negan to try to prevent the 2nd strike to Abe (instead of waiting until Abe was well past dead), it would have made more sense. Then Negan would have had the saviors hold Daryl back while he finished off Abe then the rest would have played out the same. That pause in between was blatant manipulation of the audience I tell ya!

  69. stevenh November 5, 2016 at 2:51 am - Reply

    Just decided to stop seeing this season and series. after about 30min of episode 701.
    was too gory for me. and I consider my self to have medium-hard stomach.

    the death of Abraham and Glenn was fine since deryl attacked, in order to show Negan’s evilness. however the details were too much to watch, It looked like a useless gory detailed scene. actually the scene of the hand chopping broke me. its just NO FUN.
    I finally decided its not my stile anymore. series was lagging for too long and this gory grose turn it took, is just too much.


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