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Episode 508: Coda – Recap and Discussion

The Walking Dead mid-season finale is always kind of bittersweet. It’s always good for a big moment but you also know that once it’s over you’ve got to hunker down and hibernate for a few months until the show returns. But I think we have some good stuff tonight, so let’s grab the Kleenex and get to it!

OPEN & RICK’S GROUP/ATLANTA

We start out straight from where we were last week: Lampson fleeing after knocking Sasha out. He tries to rub through the zip tie binding his hands but takes off with walkers approaching. We see Rick running full speed after him. Rick jumps in one of their squad cars and drives after him. Rick orders him to stop over the PA but he keeps running and so Rick hits him with the car, as you do. It looks bad. Rick gets out and Lampson tells him that his back is broken. Lampson clearly is afraid of Rick and his group. “I asked you to stop,” Rick says. Lampson says they’ve been out there too long and starts to tell Rick that they’ll die when Rick puts a bullet in his head. “Shut up,” Rick says and gets back in the car.

Rick returns to Sasha, Daryl, Tyreese, and Noah. The other 2 cops are tied to chairs. They see that Rick is alone. Rick talks to Daryl and says that the exchange plan will no longer work, but Daryl points out that they know that Dawn didn’t like Lampson anyway. They go to see if the two remaining cops (Officer Back Up and Officer Lady Partner) will still go along with the plan. They don’t even have to ask before Officer Lady Partner tells a version of the story where Lampson was attacked by rotters and killed. So she’s game. She doesn’t want them to go in guns blazing. Rick asks Officer Back Up if he wants to live. He back’s up Officer Lady Partner’s story.

Sasha takes up the sniper position above the parking lot. Tyreese tells Sasha that he didn’t kill Martin the Termite when he had a chance. He says they’re still the same, like they were when they were kids. Sasha agrees but then says they can’t be the same. Not anymore.

Officers from Grady show up to meet Rick while Daryl and Sasha cover him. He tells them who he is and that he’s there to make a proposal. Rick puts his gun on the ground and then offers the exchange. They ask if Noah’s with him and he confirms. When one of the officers asks where Rick’s people are, Sasha snipes an approaching walker. “They’re close.” Rick says he’ll wait for them to radio Grady.

MEANWHILE…

FATHER GABRIEL, CARL, MICHONNE/THE CHURCH

Father Gabriel has made his way to the school. I think he needs to see what happened for himself. He checks out the camp while the horde locked inside the school pounds at the door. Inside a backpack he find a bible that belonged to Mary (Gareth’s mom). He opens to Chronicles 8:10 to 11:21 (for those of you that want to check it out. Bible scholars, report in below). He lowers the bible to reveal the remains of a leg on the grill.

Gabriel bends down to look at it closer. It’s crawling with maggots. He tearfully yells and throws the grill just as the walkers break through the doors of the school. He limps back to the church, herd in tow. He begs to be let back in (as he was once begged). Carl and Michonne hear his cries and have to use an axe to get the door open. When they do, the herd comes with them. Carl shoots a few and Michonne cuts some down, but they’re overwhelmed.

They run to the rectory, where Gabriel made his escape hatch. He holds the door while Michonne and Carl leave. “I’m not going anywhere until you’re gone.” Once they’re out, he jumps into the hole and follows (but not before a walker falls and splits its head open on a machete that Michonne stabbed into the floor—pretty awesome).

“I can’t run anymore,” Gabriel says. Michonne: “We’re not running.” They take care of the walkers still in front of the church and then nail the doors shut.

Michonne asks Father Gabriel where he went and he tells her that he went to the school. “I had to know.” Just then the walkers start to break out of the church. “Where do we go?” Carl asks and Michonne looks concerned. But not for long because a certain fire truck comes barreling in, smashing the steps and blocking the door. And…

GLENN & MICHONNE’S GROUP/THE CHURCH

Maggie jumps out of the truck and hugs Michonne. Glenn tells them how Eugene lied and Michonne gives kind of a “are you f’king kidding me” look but there’s not a lot of time spent dwelling on it. Michonne gives Maggie the news that Beth is alive. Maggie is like, “Who’s Beth?” J/k. She’s very, very, happy to hear that her sister is alive. Tara says, “Let’s blow this joint, go save your sister.”

MEANWHILE…

BETH & CAROL/GRADY MEMORIAL

Dawn works out and tries radioing her officers while Beth looks at.. mail? Something. She organizes Dawn’s stuff. She looks at a photo and asks about Captain Hanson. Dawn says that Beth will hear stories about what happened. Hanson was her friend and mentor but he lost sight of the fact that every time you send people outside you’re risking their lives. She says if you lose the respect of your men, one day you’ll need back up and you won’t have it. This rationale is at the heart of every decision Dawn makes.

Beth walks in on one of the officers yelling at the old man from last week (Percy, the strawberry addict) about messing up a hole Percy was supposed to stitch up in his uniform. He shoves the old man down as Dawn comes and gets Beth.

Later, Beth sits near the elevator shaft and stares down it. Dawn walks up and tells her that Percy will be ok. “Nothing’s ok,” says Beth. Beth is clearly unsatisfied with the idea of spending her entire life in the Hospital, in that system. Dawn reveals that she knows what happened in her office when Beth killed Gorman, and that she protected her.

The officer that was yelling at Percy (Officer O’Donnell) closes the door to the hall and has clearly heard more than he should. He threatens to tell everyone what Dawn did. When he moves to leave, Dawn pulls her gun. She forces O’Donnell to move toward the elevator shaft as he tries to reason with her. Dawn is starting to take a stand against the officers abusing their power. O’Donnell makes a move against Dawn and they have a fist fight. Beth gets hit, Dawn kicks O’Donnell near the open shaft, and Beth finishes him off by shoving him down it.

Beth goes to Carol’s room and falls asleep sitting against a wall. Dawn comes in and offers her a drink. Beth tells her that she knows that she covered for her to save her own ass, not to protect Beth. “That’s how things get done here. Everyone uses people to get what they want. And you’re not the ones that have to remember.” Dawn insists that she’s not using Beth and also says that Noah will be back, because everyone comes back.

It’s just after this that Rick’s group makes contact, and their story lines merge.

RICK’S GROUP, BETH & CAROL/GRADY MEMORIAL

Rick’s group enters the hospital with their two hostages while Beth gets ready to leave (and hides a pair of scissors in her cast). Her and Dr. Edwards wheel Carol toward the exchange point. It’s Dawn and her officers on one side, and Rick’s group on the other. They all holster their weapons. The two officers give their version of the Lampson story, which Dawn accepts but probably doesn’t buy. They trade the officers for Carol and Beth but as they start to leave, Dawn asks for Noah. Rick objects. Daryl objects. Dawn is adamant. Noah says it’s ok. Rick says no but Noah insists. When Noah starts to walk back Beth runs and hugs him. “I knew you’d be back,” Dawn says. This pisses Beth off. She walks up to Dawn. “I get it now,” she says, and then stabs Dawn with the scissors. Dawn reacts instinctively and shoots Beth in the head. She looks shocked at what she’s done and we see her mouth “I didn’t mean…” but she doesn’t have long to think about it because Daryl pulls his gun and shoots Dawn clean in the head.

Officer Lady Partner calls everyone off as they all pull their guns. It’s over. “It was just about her.” Rick’s group looks devastated. Especially Daryl. The Grady Bunch offers to let them stay. Obviously it’s a big “no,” and Rick offers to let any of the Grady Bunch leave with them. None of them step forward.

Outside, the fire truck arrives…

EVERYONE/GRADY MEMORIAL

Everyone gets out of the truck, armed and ready for action, but it’s mostly piles of downed walkers. As they approach the doors Rick and everyone comes out. One of the last out the door is Daryl, carrying Beth’s body. Maggie sees this, screams, and collapses. There’s a high shot of the entire group standing around Daryl, shocked. And END.

OR IS IT?

MORGAN/THE SCHOOL & CHURCH

ANOTHER end credits scene! And again it’s Morgan. He’s still following the Termites’ carvings. He examines the camp at the school. He crouches over a collapsed walker. “Shhhhh,” and then stabs it in the head. He continues to follow the symbols in the trees to the church. He creates a little shrine with a cross, a candy bar, a bullet, and a rabbit’s foot. He kneels and laughs as he looks around. When he checks the church he finds the map that Abe left Rick. As he reads the note a look of surprise comes over his face as he sees it’s for Rick Grimes aaaand ACTUAL END.

AWWWWW MAN! I don’t care how you felt about Beth, it’s so sad to see Daryl carrying her out of Grady. F those guys, man.

Where does the group go from here?

I’m kind of surprised Dr Edwards didn’t go with them. Dude was shady but a doctor is a good pick-up in the apocalypse.

Will Morgan be able to find Rick? And what’s his mental state? He’s obviously gotten it together somewhat, but the way he dealt with the walker and the little shrine he built… is he just BARELY hanging on?

Episode 508: Coda
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  1. Trivia November 30, 2014 at 7:14 pm - Reply

    Gimple is a fucking hack! I saw that coming from a million miles away! So damn predictable! When Mazzara was in charge the show was unpredictable and very interesting. No one saw Andrea’s death coming and Season 3 was easily the highlight of the series. Now every major death is predictable as hell! If you didn’t guess that Hershel would die in too far gone, you are a moron! Gimple is a cancer that is killing TWD with bad and predictable writing and inconsistent characters. Beth’s entire character was pointless and the end of this episode was forced and idiotic! Its like the show is now written for dimwits who are not able to comprehend even the simplest form of prediction and get surprised by the obvious. A good friend of mine just rage quit the show and I understand why. I will keep watching it, but I don’t expect the series to take any unexpected turns. As long as Gimple is in charge, this show isn’t going anywhere good. The comics have been so fresh and interesting recently, its a shame that the show is dipping in quality as the comics are becoming more and more unpredictable.

    • Graymagma.jbm November 30, 2014 at 7:45 pm - Reply

      > Mazzara
      > Even coming close to implying he was a good writer
      >Season 3
      >Easily the most dragged out shit in the whole series
      >Drags out even more than season 2

      You’re adorable. He fucking butchered every storyline he ever got his hands on. Gimple put this shit back on track and can actually write a good story.

    • CharmsTWD November 30, 2014 at 9:17 pm - Reply

      If you want shocking deaths, go watch Game of Thrones without reading the novels first. I watch The Walking Dead for good story telling, and death is a device to advance the plot. Someone doesn’t have to randomly die without build up for the show to be good. The death of Beth now gives reason for Maggie’s television counterpart to have the “hanging incident.” I believe that Gimple has far surpassed Mazzara in making the show better. I’ve enjoyed every episode with Gimple as the show runner, and every episode he himself wrote. ie. “Clear” or 3×12

    • Castiel December 3, 2014 at 1:23 pm - Reply

      I strongly disagree. Each new season is better than the last, and it has been a better show since Gimple took over as show runner.

    • DeadFan1973 December 10, 2014 at 9:00 am - Reply

      Lies – you saw nothing coming – perhaps ONE of your guesses was Beth – among 5 other guesses… some of you guys make me laugh

  2. dawhiz November 30, 2014 at 7:16 pm - Reply

    OMG! You Killed Beth!!!!! YOU BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!
    I did not see that coming. I joined this site today just to tell you that I’m so very upset that you killed off Beth!!!
    I still can’t believe it!
    dawhiz!

  3. Brad101 November 30, 2014 at 7:26 pm - Reply

    I just joined tonight just to say that the writers of this show are morons.

  4. nikocb1 November 30, 2014 at 7:30 pm - Reply

    Why all the hate guys?
    Rick is becoming more and more badass with each episode. Andrew Lincon kills it each time.
    This episode had me anxious and sad.. the quintessential Walking Dead emotions.

  5. emilyjane716 November 30, 2014 at 7:33 pm - Reply

    I have never been so upset over a television show before. You just lost a die hard Walking Dead fan..

    • Graymagma.jbm November 30, 2014 at 7:53 pm - Reply

      We’ve lost others just as important, though. It’s hard every time when we see someone go, but it’s part of what you have to expect with TWD.

      • .BASTET December 2, 2014 at 4:16 am - Reply

        I have to laugh. We see it all the time, Neutral. Every time a solid character is killed off, there is this group of people who complain about the show. I imagine this group consists of people who’ve heard from their friends that the show is good or they’re curious to know what the hype is all about. They start tuning in. Maybe they even go back & catch up on Season 4. They can’t tell you the name of the red-headed guy or the chick who used to hang with The Governor. They don’t know who the hell Morgan is & why he seems to be so special. All they know is that the show is killing off good characters for shock value. L-O-L!!! A few will do as they say & find something else to watch on Sunday nights, never learning/understanding the concept of “(we are) THE WALKING DEAD”. Others will give the show a longer run before they make a decision. I call these people “Late Bloomers”. They’ll eventually catch on to what the show is about & will be the ones debating with next year’s “Late Bloomers” in the making. The others who fall off have no clue as to what they’re missing out on–a shame…& some will even return to the communities to troll because they know cool people hang out there & now they’re feeling left out!
        Lesson from a hipster: If you’re gonna ride this train, hop on the locomotive, not the caboose & you won’t get derailed! Simplified: Start at Season 1, get caught up, be informed.

    • ryantwest86 November 30, 2014 at 8:07 pm - Reply

      Don’t give up yet. Her death will change the entire group. You will have to honor her memory by watching the events that unfold after her death. I mean, how many episodes built up to that final moment. It happened for a reason I’m sure. Trust in Kirkman, Gimple, and all the amazing people that bring us into this amazing world. RIP Beth!!!

    • DeadFan1973 December 10, 2014 at 9:02 am - Reply

      k – bye

      The show will go on without you

  6. Graymagma.jbm November 30, 2014 at 7:48 pm - Reply

    HOLY SHIT! BETH! OH HOLY SHIT, HER BRAINS. JESUS CHRIST.

    Fuck, though, man. Guess that’s part of the deal. The major theme in “The Walking Dead” is, well, death. Really good episode. Brutal. Guess the mass exodus of Hershel’s family is finally complete with Maggie being the sole survivor.

  7. MaximumParty November 30, 2014 at 7:49 pm - Reply

    This rocked, it was hard to see everyone upset, i was never a huge fan of beth bit shes been around a while and it was rough, hahaha dawns face was so like, “wait wait wait! ….oh im fucked…”

  8. vesterray November 30, 2014 at 7:55 pm - Reply

    I will seriously miss Beth, she was the image of reason and sweetness. Rip.

  9. ryantwest86 November 30, 2014 at 8:02 pm - Reply

    I created an account just to say I think Gimple has made this show way better! He’s remixing stories from the source material and finding ways to create new material that keeps us guessing. Yes, I predicted Beth or Carol would die in this episode. Definitely sad, but think about the effect her death will have on the group. On Maggie. There’s a lot of great stories to come that Robert Kirkman wrote. Gimple recognizes that there’s a reason so many people love the source material, well played. I loved this mid season finale. Now, what to do until February?

  10. Deavon Reye November 30, 2014 at 8:20 pm - Reply

    Some may be “sad” about Beth’s end, but others are going to be pissed off. In fact, pissed off enough to contemplate watching something else at that time on Sunday. I realize that people will die in such a situation, but you don’t HAVE to kill off the more loved characters [and I saw it coming when Michonne was telling Mggie that they had found Beth]. Especially in the [and I’m not sorry to say this] piss poor writing that caused Beth’s character to be killed. The creator/writers may have thought something of it, but it was one of the most senseless endings of a character who could have added much more depth in the future. But what’s done is done. And I am about done with your show. If that’s the goal of the writers, then . . . “job done” for you.

    • Graymagma.jbm November 30, 2014 at 8:30 pm - Reply

      A.) People do senseless shit all the time in real life. Beth’s anger with this police shit has increased slowly but surely.
      B.)Yeah, they do HAVE to kill off the characters. Because that’s THE POINT of the show. If no one dies, nothing gets done. And the ones no one gives a shit about are killed off ALL THE TIME. We have had SOOOOO many more redshirt deaths than cast deaths. If the one we love never die the show is essentially pointless and entirely devoid of any real struggle. Ever read the comics? They’re way worse all the time. All the complaining from strictly show watchers honestly comes off as spoiled if you know both mediums.
      C.)Not every character is going to have some “zenith” growth and then die at the perfect moment. Because that’s no real life. We all work towards self-actualization but that doesn’t mean we reach it. In real life, people die all the time randomly and without warning and whether or not they have reached their “zenith” doesn’t matter. Likewise, not every character is going to stick around because they’re “deep” and will “help the group dynamic.”

  11. jworkman November 30, 2014 at 8:41 pm - Reply

    I have to say, I love that the way Rick deals with Lampson is basically an Easter egg from the way things went down between Rick and Martinez in issue #36! Did anyone else make this connection?

  12. revan772 November 30, 2014 at 8:43 pm - Reply

    Dang. That was rough. It was good, and tense. I loved it.

    Question, when Dawn said that those cops laughed when that poor girl got raped, was she referring to Beth, someone else we know, or just some random? Thanks!

  13. stephenhscott November 30, 2014 at 8:50 pm - Reply

    When Beth said to Dawn…”I get it now.” What do you think she meant? What did she get?

    • SiLvEsTrE November 30, 2014 at 10:22 pm - Reply

      As far I could understand, it wasn’t the first time the Grady Memorial Hospital’s group exchange hostages with others. Maybe, Lamson’s character was just pretending to help Rick, when, in fact, his plans was to run to Dawn. I think they had some sort of protocol for when this kind of things happens. Remember that big fellow that went to rescue Lamson and Shepperd alone in last episode?

  14. .BASTET November 30, 2014 at 9:02 pm - Reply

    Did Carl spike Judith’s formula with a little communion wine while she was in Michonne’s care?

    • GovernorPhillip December 1, 2014 at 2:44 pm - Reply

      Judith got it herself. She climbed out of her cradle, fell through the hole in the floor, crawled along the ground until she came across a walker, the walker picked her up ready to bite when all of a sudden a bird flew in and attacked the walker, the walker threw Judith at the bird, the bird dodged Judith and Judith went through one of the church’s windows, Judith flew through the room, landed back into her cradle which then bumped a table with a wine bottle on it which then tipped the wine bottle over which allowed wine to poor directly into Judith’s mouth.

  15. jmoore711b November 30, 2014 at 9:52 pm - Reply

    Emily Kinney said on Talking Dead that she didn’t see this coming. Really? They’ve spent half a season on her. Anytime someone other than Daryl gets that kind of character development it doesn’t turn out well.

    That said, Beth was great and I think it says a lot for Emily as an actress when a walker-bait background character in season 2 becomes the focus of her own storyline for half a season and then the major dramatic death in season five. Great job, Emily and RIP Beth.

  16. Graymagma.jbm November 30, 2014 at 10:05 pm - Reply

    WHY DID MY NAME CHANGE BACK TO MY BLOODY E-MAIL. GOD, THESE SKYBOUND INSIDER ACCOUNTS ARE ANNOYING. HOW THE BLOODY HELL DO I CHANGE IT BACK TO NEUTRAL GREY.

  17. BillyHo November 30, 2014 at 11:37 pm - Reply

    Simply put… it needed to happen.

  18. GovernorPhillip December 1, 2014 at 2:35 am - Reply

    What a great and saddening way to finish a strong first half of season 5! The episode started on a slow start but it was more about the character’s than anything else this episode. Beth’s death hit hard! It was great to see that Maggie cared about her sister for once. Rick has gone full badass! Overall, it was a good episode and it made Beth’s death monumental by having the audience learn about her and care for her.

  19. Acid Mars December 1, 2014 at 4:54 am - Reply

    Why Beth? Why now?

    This goes down in my mind as the most pathetic example of hitting viewers below the belt for shock value that I’ve ever experienced.

    Beth’s character had developed soooo much since the beginning of season 4 where she was pretty much a glorified babbysitter, into the beginning of a strong character that would have been great to watch in a more “Bethy the walker slayer” role, only to be gunned down before she is allowed to shiine in this new light for what was IMO a tragic attempt at shock value.

    I cried… and yes… that was the desired response. It’s what they wanted us all to do.But at what cost? How many die hard fans are now hurt and angry, or at least feel betrayed in some way? How many fans really wanted to see the “new Beth” in action?

    To me, Beth was a symbol of hope, behind a beutifull smile, on a show that’s sometimes hard to watch. The Walking Dead was a better show before this episode than it will be after. This was a huge mistake, and I’m sure future ratings will reflect that.

    Will I continue to watch? If you had asked me before this episode, of coarse I will. Now… I honestly don’t know.

    I kinda feel like someone just raped my daughter.

    • Neutral-Grey December 1, 2014 at 9:34 am - Reply

      There is no hope in TWD except the ones we pick for ourselves. Just because someone is pure and sweet doesn’t mean they’ll survive for the audience’s sake. In fact, it means the exact opposite in most cases. If the ratings reflect people being angry, those people didn’t understand the world this show takes place in.

      Children die, children learn to kill, good people and bad people are tortured, people die for the slightest transgressions, and one hasty decision could end so many lives. This isn’t a good world. Almost everyone is going to likely die.

  20. seanmathews1 December 1, 2014 at 5:20 am - Reply

    So two things.

    1) Rick pretty much killed Bob in cold blood. And it was awesome. Rick is growing dark, but that’s a good thing. He’ll need it if they catch up to the comics.

    2) I am surprised at the restraint after the Beth/Dawn showdown. It goes to show neither side wanted bloodshed and that Dawn was the problem at the hospital all along. Its as almost as the remaining cops are relieved. They just want to survive, in peace. Hopefully, that can happen now that she’s gone.

    It kind of hurt watching Rick and Daryl’s reactions to Beth, and Maggie’s. My wife was in tears, and damned if I wasn’t close. Great ending.

  21. .BASTET December 1, 2014 at 6:47 am - Reply

    All I want is for Gimple to change it up so that it’s no longer predictable in the sense that when we see the spotlight shine brightly on a character, we know that their number has been pulled.

    This is the first Talking Dead that had me teared up.

  22. khaos December 1, 2014 at 7:54 am - Reply

    It’s just not good be a Greene in a mid season finale!
    I admit my prediction was way off. i thought we were losing carol and tyrese.
    After the rooftop Conversation with sasha about their childhood and tyrese reminiscing, i figured he was a shoe in.
    I guessed during the exchange Dawn would lose her shit and try to shoot beth, Carol would move beth and sacrifice herself, then the group would have a fire fight resulting in Tyrese getting capped in a moment of hesitation.

    now begins the long wait until feburary…..

    R.I.P. Beth

  23. sgberger December 1, 2014 at 11:20 am - Reply

    When this show finally ends (hopefully not for several more years), the producers need to find a way for a cast reunion on a special ‘Talking Dead’. For one show, bring back the Governor, Herschel, Dale, Andrea, etc. Let fans enjoy one last look, where everybody gets to share something.

  24. DeadFan1973 December 1, 2014 at 12:50 pm - Reply

    I ALMOST thought we were going to get through the episode without any main characters dying – leaving that for second half of the season. Just when Beth and Maggie were going to be re-united … BAM!! I guess that’s what makes the show as good as it is, unpredictable. I see people posting “I knew that was gonna happen” – yet when the pole was posted on who will die in the mid-season finale – no one hit it – no one. So claim all you want you knew it was coming, you were as surprised as the rest.
    Anyhow, Beth did in fact start out as a pointless character. A lot of time was spent building her character up to the point where people cared about her – which is prime time to strike .. excellent writing, and a great way to leave off until February. It would have been spectacular if she was at least able to meet up with Maggie – even if they killed her off in the courtyard on the way out … something …
    TWD – thanks for the best show on TV

  25. Yaroslav1992 December 1, 2014 at 3:14 pm - Reply

    hey i dont care about Beth dying,but couldn’t you kill her in the way that actually makes any sense? come on this is so stupid,stabbing dawn with the scissors? really? she was drunk or something? and i was disappointed that they haven’t reached alexandria, i think its a perfect place for mid finale don’t you think? they show moving too slow, im sure that the show will star losing viewers after this, im still gonna keep wathing it though.

  26. DeadFan33 December 1, 2014 at 5:49 pm - Reply
  27. DeadFan33 December 1, 2014 at 5:57 pm - Reply

    I too joined specifically to voice an opinion regarding the writers killing Beth. I believe that the writers / producers are losing site of the human aspect of the story line……….. like hope. Being a Psych. Major I know that all humans need hope and by the show constantly killing a member of the group in every other episode your viewers will lose hope. Honestly, I wanted to see Beth reunited with the group and form a relationship with Darryl. There are so, so many ways you can maneuver the show without killing people that your viewers grow to love. Beth was such a large light in the show, child like but fearless, no one will be able to replace her. The show seems to be getting more, and more depressing. The loss of Sophia, Laurie, Andrea, Hershal………now Beth……….it is not as enjoyable to watch as it once was. I hope that the writers / producers read these posts and will reconsider their decision to kill Beth and rewrite that last episode. I agree with an earlier post, reaching Alexandria would have been a good mid season finale. This is one person’s opinion.

    • Neutral-Grey December 1, 2014 at 8:44 pm - Reply

      Rewrite something that already happened? Okay, yeah, sure. They’ll get right on that.

      Death is in the name. Those of you who only watch the show come off as pretty spoiled every time a character dies. If you know the source material, you know death is ALWAYS in The Walking Dead and the show is honestly already kind of neutered in comparison. If the show did half of what the comic did I can tell you that we would have lost half the bloody cast in the final battle for the prison.

      This isn’t some drama merely there for you to love the characters. It’s a tale of survival in a very brutal world where innocence cannot survive. If you want hope, you make your own.

      • DntShoot_Luffy December 2, 2014 at 1:03 am - Reply

        Anyone can become hard enough to survive. Humans are wonderfully adaptable creatures. If you did not seeing how she was becoming a survival “bad ass”, maybe you should go watch season 4 and 5 again man. With the mind of a human not an ape/hillbilly.

          • Neutral-Grey December 2, 2014 at 11:51 am

            Being a badass doesn’t count for much either, you know? One stray bullet and you’re done. You’re fucked. Game over. No re-writes. No retcons. Strong people die all the fucking time. Which is actually something the show has a bit more trouble with. The comic has displayed that strong or not, one wrong move and it’s over. The show has a much bigger cast of “untouchables.” Which is in itself contradictory to the point of the show.

            People learn how to survive. But it doesn’t mean they WILL survive. Maybe you should watch the show again with the eyes of someone who accepts the main themes of the show instead of a starry eyed idealist. People will always die. Badasses, innocent, old, and young alike. They will all die.

    • DeadFan1973 December 10, 2014 at 8:56 am - Reply

      Hope? What Hope? Zombies – and Terminites – eat people… ANY person in this world would have lost sight of humanity – just look at how Rick has changed since the first season. Oh, wait, he is a bad-ass, so it is ok that he hacks people up with a machete, right??
      And it is far from every other episode. what, 2 main characters (if you count Bob as a main character) have died in 8 episodes this season??
      If Beth died at the farm, you wouldn’t have cared so much – but since she has grown into a decent character, she should have lived? Sad that people think this show is going downhill – it’s all about expectations

  28. DntShoot_Luffy December 2, 2014 at 12:57 am - Reply

    OMG, What a shit episode. Kill of one of the best characters for nothing. So this whole Hospital saga was to get Beth killed. BULL SH!T utter BULL SH!T I say, Beth was becoming a bad ass and wanted to see her grow more into the survivalist we all know she could be. Going into the episode knowing it would happen, I still become pissed off when i saw such a sh!t ending to her life.
    I see this show going down same path as “Heroes” “RUINING THE QUALITY WITH EACH NEW SEASONS RELEASE”

  29. eleneetha@gmailcom December 2, 2014 at 5:01 am - Reply

    I loved it!
    Rick!
    “shut up”
    Why are some people so emerssed in who dies or not?
    It is a story and a very very good one and yes it is based on death and struggles to survive.
    A war zone with really bad people or really stupid people with power like Dawn.
    I know we want to see Rick be the hero all the time. I do. Andrew Lincoln makes this show work for me. His acting skilsl and ‘the way he carries himself” are spot on..bad ass and thinking acting type.
    Yes he has gone off the deep end. I would too. I wonder how many of those starving brutalized Syrians are going through the same thing right now on some level..but that is reality..not a zombie story!
    Or is it??

    I love an end of the world story. I do not care if any of them die because they are not real, yo! Please not Rick! Not Daryl..Not Michone!! LOL
    Maggie? Should we have a back story on her and her memories of her life with her sister? To see if she really missed her all those times she seemingly did not cry for her of lament her loss? And then give rise to hope only to loose it just as fast?? WOW!
    It seems like I have read a whole lot of angry posts about Maggie. She has had a bunch of other things to do and worry about, I mean really!

    I wonder now where we will go from here?
    I feel like the group will meet the hill people soon. I love it! I can hardly wait to watch!

    Also, thank you, Robert Kirkman for conjuring up an apocalyptic story that does not suck! It rocks!! Please write more!
    XXXOOO

  30. Eloise December 3, 2014 at 9:23 am - Reply

    Wishful thinking, perhaps, but I hope it’s all a big twist. Beth gets shot in the head – just like Carl in the comic. He survives because he is near a hospital (and some luck of course)with a doctor (and equipment). Maybe Beth ‘is Carl’ you know? Maybe she makes it (Yes I saw the exit wound in the back of her head – but why not? It is fiction, they got zombies in the show for Christ sake!) At least I hope this is what is going on, otherwise all the hope and humanity disappeared with Beth.

  31. kdmb96 December 3, 2014 at 4:28 pm - Reply

    Honestly, I am upset that Beth is dead very I enjoyed her character from the beginning I felt like she was pretty real. A lot of people going through what she has been through would have probably somewhat shut down (Not ever crying), but was still trying to hold on to something, her dad’s values that he instilled in her, and kind of have to find the good in something in this world to be able to keep going. I am starting to feel the walking dead is getting repetitive, I mean really does there have to be a huge death every two seconds, I mean Bob just died can’t we mourn him before you kill off another big character and there is always a big bad guy that they have to focus on and they’re all the same, a group trying to do good or was good and just went bad. It’s getting tiring, and boring. Maybe they will do something to redeem themselves January 8th, but as of right now I am just aggravated with how the Walking Dead has been going so far and I really enjoyed it in the beginning, it was my favorite show.. and it makes me sad that I am bored with it, I really want to love it. So, please, please do something new with the show, and make it interesting again!

    • DeadFan1973 December 10, 2014 at 8:49 am - Reply

      Just a quick note – to make the show – what would seem realistic – you have to kill these characters – regularly. If this were a real world scenario – it wouldn’t matter who had just died, people would likely die back to back – just like the show.

      Since the show started – we have been in Atlanta, at the farm, at the prison, Woodbury and Terminus – and the church – and GMH – all new stuff – new characters each time – how is that not new? Each season (or half season) we have seen ‘new’ – not sure what you expect

  32. BillyHo December 6, 2014 at 1:29 am - Reply

    I really want to see some main characters go off on their own path and not return. Even a possibility of a spin off? I know they are making a new non-related side show but I think a couple going off and doing their own thing could bring an interesting new view to the zombie show.
    .
    I would even like to see a vengeance spin off. Where a single person travels all nomad and deals with all the messed up marauders and screwed up groups that took the opportunity of an apocalyptic event to prey on their own kind. That person can start traveling West and make sure he/she leaves a bloodbath in his wake.

  33. Juls77 December 19, 2014 at 7:08 am - Reply

    In terms of character deaths, I think the show has tamed way down. I remember in the first couple of series where you almost daren’t get attached to anyone as they would be killed soon. I’m quite surprised by the outcry at beths death. I liked her too but really, this much spectacle. These people need to grow a pair, instead of coming online to throw their toys out the pram ‘bring her back or we won’t watch the show anymore’ .. really? .. bye then. Tsk!!

  34. Brandonz January 19, 2015 at 9:41 am - Reply

    Who people’s fav character and why? Mine Glenn because I can compare me to him like a runner and I’m Asian too 🙂


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