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Episode 415: Us – Recap and Discussion

“Us” starts with Abraham and Glenn’s group still following the tracks. Eugene’s lecturing on dinosaurs, viruses, and video games. When Tara finds a penny, he tells her how to make a battery. Clearly he’s smart, but maybe not the most socially savvy guy.

That night, Abraham and Tara keep watch. Abraham says he’s noticed how Tara watches Glenn and he thought maybe she was in love with him, until he noticed how she checked out Rosita. He realizes that her drive to protect Glenn is something different.

Eugene continues talking Tara’s ear off. Luckily, they come across one of Maggie’s messages: GLENN GO TO TERMINUS. MAGGIE SASHA BOB. He takes off like a bolt of lightning.

Apparently he doesn’t run too far or too long, because the whole group is together, albeit moving at a brisk pace. Abraham wants to rest but Glenn wants to keep moving. A walker falls out of a watch tower and splats on the ground. In trying to protect Eugene, Abraham knocks Tara down, hurting her leg. When Glenn asks if she wants to rest, she agrees to keep moving. Rosita calls Glenn out for being uncaring, and not noticing that Tara would kill herself to help him. Glenn ignores her and makes a deal with Abraham: if he’ll keep moving until sundown he’ll give his riot gear to Eugene. Abraham accepts.

Later, they come to a very, VERY dark tunnel. Abraham refuses to go through it. “You hear that? That there is a loooong, dark tunnel full of reanimated corpses.” He says it’s time for them to part ways since he knows that Glenn is going to insist on going through the tunnel. Abraham gives Glenn and Tara some canned food and a flashlight. Eugene compliments Tara on her looks. Tara tells him she likes girls. Oh, he knows.

Before heading into the tunnel Glenn reassures Tara that he does care about her. Tara tells Glenn that she didn’t really understand what was going on with the Governor, but she was part of it and she can’t change that.

They approach a cave-in in the tunnel. Walkers are trapped in the debris. There’s wet blood, meaning it happened that day. Glenn checks the walkers as he climbs to the top of the cave-in. There’s an entire herd on the other side. Glenn shines the flashlight on them, looking for Maggie, which draws them in. He says he wants to push through. Tara advises against that.

While they contemplate this we check in with Abraham, Rosita, and Eugene. Eugene wants to be the navigator. After making his case, Rosita allows it. As they drive, Abraham is napping in the back of the car and Rosita is accusing Eugene of being lost. It turns out Eugene’s just been leading them to the other side of the runnel instead of toward Washington. Abraham wakes up and is pissed. As he argues with Rosita, and meanwhile Eugene sees something out the window. “GUYS!” They turn and stare.

Back to the world’s scariest tunnel, the walkers are herding toward Glenn’s flashlight, a diversion. Glenn and Tara move down the land slide opposite the light when Tara slips and gets her foot caught. Tara tells Glenn to leave her but he refuses and starts shooting until he runs out of ammo. Out of nowhere a car shows up and a group opens fire. It’s Maggie, Sasha, Bob, Abraham, Rosita, and The Euge. Tearful reunion ensues.

They stack the bodies and make camp in the tunnel. When Glenn introduces Tara he says that he found her on the road, not letting Maggie know about her involvement with the Governor. Clean slate: unlocked! Abraham tries to convince the group to come with him to Washington. Eugene says that they should go to Terminus, see what they have there. Rosita agrees. Sasha wants to go to Terminus as well, as does Bob. Abraham defers to Eugene.

Maggie and Glenn catch up. Maggie tells him she intentionally caused the cave-in when they were outnumbered by walkers. Glenn’s picture of Maggie falls out and she lights it on fire, as her promise to him that they’ll never be separated again.

Let’s rewind the clock a bit and jump over to Rick, Carl, and Michonne. Carl and Michonne are seeing who can balance on the rails the longest. Carl wins and is rewarded with a Big Cat candy bar, which he splits with Michonne. Rick smiles as he watches the exchange. Still weird to see that. They continue toward Terminus.

While Glenn was still looking for Maggie, Daryl was getting acquainted with his new crew. We start with them sleeping. A walker approaches and hits their tripwire alarm. Easily dispatched, but they notice that Daryl’s walked off. They joke that maybe he found the Lincoln that took Beth. Len heads off to find Daryl, who’s squirrel hunting. He takes down the same rabbit Daryl does, which does not please Daryl. He tells Daryl that he’s claimed the rabbit. Rules of the hunt. He proceeds to antagonize Daryl over Beth, to the point that Daryl tries to pull his knife. Joe stops him before it escalates and explains the rules to Daryl. Their group “claims” objects, and that’s how they keep the peace. First one to claim something gets it. Joe says he’s not gonna punish Daryl for breaking a rule he didn’t know existed. He then cuts the rabbit in half and splits it between the two men.

As they head down the tracks, Joe grills Daryl on what his plan is. Daryl’s reluctant to commit to staying with them, and Joe tries to convince him that it’s best to join them. He explains what happens when you break the rules: you catch a beating. They stop at a garage for the night. Joe, who is apparently a cat person (Lizzy cheers), warns Daryl: “Ain’t nothing sadder than an outdoor cat thinks he’s an indoor cat.”

They head into the garage and one of them notes that no one’s been there for a while. Joe says that it doesn’t matter—they’re getting closer. All the cars are claimed for sleeping so Daryl crashes on the floor. Len freaks out when he finds his rabbit-half is missing, and promptly accuses Daryl of stealing, a serious offense. Before they come to blows, Joe once again intervenes. He empties Daryl’s bag and both halves of the rabbit fall out. Daryl says that Len planted it. When Len refutes that, Joe hits him and the group beats him. Joe saw Len plant the rabbit. This was a test, and Len failed it.

When Daryl wakes up and leaves with the group the next day, he sees Len’s dead body with an arrow through the eye. When the group hits the tracks, Daryl notices the Terminus sign. Joe says it’s a lie. “You think they’re gonna welcome guys like you and me with open arms?” Joe tells him who they’re after: Rick. They tracked him to a Terminus sign, so that’s where they’re going.

When they see a strawberry plant Daryl yells, “Claimed!” and takes it. He’s falling in with them.

They don’t notice the Big Cat wrapper on the tracks.

The last scene of the episode is Glenn’s reunited group arriving at Terminus, a large industrial building. There are sunflowers out front and friendly signs about lowering your guns. Inside there are more flowers, laundry, and a woman barbecuing. Her name is Mary. She welcomes them and offers to fix them a plate.

So what did you think?!
Reunited love!
Eugene (kind of) saving the day!
Daryl and his scumbag friends!
And finally… TERMINUS!

Is ANYBODY trusting Terminus about now? Can it actually be the peaceful utopia it seems to be?

The best comment (as judged by us) will win a Robert Kirkman-signed 10th Anniversary COLOR Walking Dead #1!

UPDATE: Our favorite comment belonged to Chris Bigger, who also successfully claimed it! Nice job, Chris.

  1. Greg March 23, 2014 at 7:05 pm - Reply

    At the ending of the episode. That’s got to be one of the hunters because of the cooked meat in the background. IT’S HUMAN MEAT!

  2. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:08 pm - Reply

    Robert Kirkman-signed 10th Anniversary COLOR Walking dead # 1 CLAIMED

  3. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:09 pm - Reply
  4. Matthew Cudd March 23, 2014 at 7:11 pm - Reply

    i dont think they are at all because its all new, the flowers and corn looked familliar because it looked like the prison farm.But right now maggie n glenn are in lobe heaben so they could care less, lol but the finale will be crazy!!!!! i cant wait!!!!!

  5. Matthew Cudd March 23, 2014 at 7:13 pm - Reply
  6. krallidor March 23, 2014 at 7:14 pm - Reply

    bring on the cannibals. that also could be beth cookin on the grill. you know all the guys wanted to eat her anyways LOL

  7. Dr. A March 23, 2014 at 7:14 pm - Reply

    Two things – no security at entrance has me worried. And 2nd – what’s on the BBQ? Humans? Are these the canibals from the comic??

  8. Jason Thomas March 23, 2014 at 7:15 pm - Reply

    I definitely think the people at Terminus are cannibals the woman seemed pretty creepy. Very good episode nice to see Eugene looking out for Glenn and Tara .

  9. Nestor March 23, 2014 at 7:15 pm - Reply

    Terminus is not to be trusted, some say Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is there o_0

  10. Greg March 23, 2014 at 7:15 pm - Reply

    Was the commercials were annoying in that episode? Too many commercials in that episode.

  11. Samuel Lucido March 23, 2014 at 7:15 pm - Reply

    Haha she was soooo one of The Hunters. Did anyone else notice how there wasn’t any meat on the grill? … Not yet, anyway… Mwahahahaha

  12. disqus_hNyA7QvyL0 March 23, 2014 at 7:15 pm - Reply

    Hmmmm Terminus. You can’t trust any place that when you walk in there’s a smiling, happy person there to greet you…it’s just like going to the doctors for a physical, sure there’s a nice young nurse happy to see you, but we all know whats coming when we walk into that exam room.

  13. Pablo March 23, 2014 at 7:16 pm - Reply

    I don’t give a monkeys left nut!

  14. Irene March 23, 2014 at 7:17 pm - Reply

    I get a creepy feeling that Terminus will be worse than Woodbury

  15. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:18 pm - Reply

    Man we got to see everyone but Beth dang I was hoping they would kinda see what happened

  16. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:20 pm - Reply

    Abaraham zombie kill of the week

  17. Greg March 23, 2014 at 7:22 pm - Reply

    I want to BIG CAT taste like?

  18. Greg March 23, 2014 at 7:25 pm - Reply

    Daryl got the lucky Rabbit foot in that episode.

  19. Rance Hudak March 23, 2014 at 7:27 pm - Reply

    I think that Terminus is the place where the Hunters are at. It doesn’t seem like a good place to be

  20. Rance Hudak March 23, 2014 at 7:27 pm - Reply
  21. Brad Tyler March 23, 2014 at 7:35 pm - Reply
  22. SlipS March 23, 2014 at 7:36 pm - Reply

    Josh McDermitt is so fucking awesome as Eugene!!! loved his swag this episode! Also i was close with my prediction of Tara dying next(so close ;P) but i was so stoked to see 6 people gunning down zombies to save Glenn and Tara because i knew it was Sasha Bob and Maggie Eugene spotted on the train tracks! Awesome episode but im really worried about Michonne now in the next episode, that preview was a pretty suggestive…

  23. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:37 pm - Reply

    Abraham rocking the fur collar

  24. Nicholas March 23, 2014 at 7:39 pm - Reply

    Hmmmm. Human sized barbecue pit. How convienent.

  25. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:41 pm - Reply

    Seeing the Silhouettes of Abraham and the group made me think of left 4 dead

  26. Greg March 23, 2014 at 7:43 pm - Reply

    Now, we know that Joe’s Group are not the Hunters because they didn’t eat Len.

    • Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:57 pm - Reply

      I was thinking the same thing looks like a bunch of thugs. But I’m torn with them they don’t seem as bad as I thought they would be

      • Greg March 23, 2014 at 8:14 pm - Reply

        I agree. The Leader wasn’t a jerk to Daryl. I think, Daryl finds his new step dad in that episode lol. I’m going to be disappointed, When Joe’s group will find Rick for killing his friend and Daryl have to pick sides to help but Daryl goes to pick with Rick side. Man, next episode will be intense.

      • Bastet March 24, 2014 at 3:12 am - Reply

        Don’t forget how they were talking whenever they were in the house that Rick was in. Then there’s the comment Joe said to Daryl when we first met him, about hurting other people. Joe let Len do what he did & then punishment was that Len was beaten to death. These fellas are BAD NEWS! Joe just happens to like Daryl, but we’ll see what happens when they find Rick!

  27. Tim Helton March 23, 2014 at 7:46 pm - Reply

    We thought at first it might be some kind of cult but cannibals is looking like a possible also. Either way it seems like a bad place and where some may die again.

  28. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:47 pm - Reply

    Don’t be dumb just be smart ha ha ha ha

  29. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 23, 2014 at 7:48 pm - Reply

    Very good, and extremely hopeful. Though I do think next week will be HUGE!
    Big cliffhanger. And why was Carl running in the trailer? And ALONE?

  30. Bill Dinkins March 23, 2014 at 7:49 pm - Reply

    Old Southern saying, “Never stop to look at the flowers and don’t eat at any place named Terminus!”

  31. Greg March 23, 2014 at 7:51 pm - Reply

    Honestly, I thought that could be Morgan at the end of the episode but I was disappointed it wasn’t him. Man, I miss Morgan.

  32. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 23, 2014 at 7:52 pm - Reply

    Notice that creepy claiming guy told Daryl that terminus was a lie. And the trailer for next week didn’t seem so cheery about the word terminus.

    Lady says welcome to terminus: Que jaws theme song.

  33. Christina Sipes March 23, 2014 at 7:57 pm - Reply

    It’s Mrs. Hannibal Lecter!

  34. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 7:57 pm - Reply

    I can not wait to see next weeks episode but I also don’t want to see it because I know that’s it

  35. Chris Bigger March 23, 2014 at 8:00 pm - Reply

    It was cool to hear Eugene talk about video games

  36. Angela March 23, 2014 at 8:03 pm - Reply
  37. Andrew Seymour March 23, 2014 at 8:08 pm - Reply

    Tara is tainted meat. 5 bucks.

  38. Rance Hudak March 23, 2014 at 8:08 pm - Reply

    I really liked the reunion with Glen and Maggie. It was really nice

    • Bastet March 24, 2014 at 3:24 am - Reply

      It wasn’t as “powerful” as I’d thought it be. Seemed like they had just seen each other the day before.

      • Jason Thomas March 24, 2014 at 4:28 am - Reply

        Am I the only person that thinks its weird that Maggie wasn’t suspicious of Tara body language.

        • Bastet March 24, 2014 at 5:33 am - Reply

          Maybe at the time, since Glenn was doting on Tara so, Maggie was just really thankful that she helped Glenn survive. I can’t help thinking that the guilt trip will come back up, tho & somebody will take notice. Somebody else besides Glenn has to know that she was with The Gov’s group & make a stink about it.

    • thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 24, 2014 at 7:02 pm - Reply

      I thought the scene before it was kinda dumb. don’t get me wrong, this is my favorite episode of the season, but am i the only one rolling my eyes when Tara got her foot stuck, and she was telling Glenn to leave, And they did the whole: IM NOT GONNA LEAVE YOU thing? a little too soap opera esque for me. But I’m hugely excited for the finale. looks great.

  39. Dean Michael Mead March 23, 2014 at 8:15 pm - Reply

    IF the Hunters are at the Terminus, then all the signs inviting people to come there remind me of this classic quotation: “‘To Serve Man’…it’s a cookbook. IT’S A COOKBOOK!!”

  40. Rance Hudak March 23, 2014 at 8:16 pm - Reply

    I kind of like how Daryls new group acts. The leader kind of has his own morality (Even though he is brutal)

  41. Ricardo Díaz March 23, 2014 at 8:19 pm - Reply

    Well the most suspicious is the bbq part we dont is that is beth, when we see Daryl’s Scumbags And Rick WHO side is daryl is going to be

  42. Melissa Marr March 23, 2014 at 8:21 pm - Reply

    who is the actress who played mary at terminus???

  43. strgzer March 23, 2014 at 8:24 pm - Reply

    The Glenn Maggie reunite was so unexpected! In the tunnel with him saving TAra no matter what. Mary at terminus can only foretell crazy as in not good. Daryl and Sam.. Sam has that fearsome warrior wounded good guy at heart thing but we all know that darly is the true Lancelot character. I am just waiting for when Rick and Carl and all the rest see carol with baby Judith and break down and hallalouha, and when Rick sees that tyreese has foegiven carol… Maybe the cruel intentions of terminus will not be enough to outweigh the loyalty and true luv of our heros?….

  44. LeeLee March 23, 2014 at 8:25 pm - Reply

    Terminus is DEFINITELY worse than Woodbury. Why was it so easy to get into Terminus? No security! The chains on the gates weren’t even locked. No people around except for the woman who “welcomed” the group. CREEPY!!!

  45. Sean Hammond March 23, 2014 at 8:26 pm - Reply

    I’m ecstatic to see Maggie and Glenn back together. It’s going to suck when one of them get eaten. Probably at Terminus. All of us comic fans know the Hunters are coming at some point. Hopefully they don’t like Seoul BBQ.
    Daryl has once again joined forces with someone trying to kill Rick. Like they wouldn’t have killed him and done unspeakable things to Michonne and Carl if they had gotten their hands on them at that house anyway. He should have already killed their sorry asses. In Daryl we trust, but this is going to get ugly…Good thing he has 4 rabbit’s feet for good luck.
    Terminus…Quite literally the end of the line. Need I say more? And we though the Governor was the angel of death. He’s going to look like St. Peter compared to this. And speaking of saints, where the hell is Beth?!

  46. Stan Cook March 23, 2014 at 8:34 pm - Reply

    Terminus will be Woodbury on steroids. Instead of one crazy psycho….MANY!

  47. Ricardo Colombo March 23, 2014 at 8:38 pm - Reply

    Wonder if the Big Cat wrapper on the tracks was enough of a clue for Daryl that Michonne is in the group he’s tailing? She was picking up candy bars and comics for Carl during her Governor hunts at the start of the season, and a tracker of Daryl’s skills would notice it’s real clean trash. If so, Joe ID’d the one person who knows who they are tracking. That means Daryl would only have to find a way to make that guy have an accident to buy the group some time.

    If that’s too much of a stretch, he just needs to yell “claimed” ten times real fast!

  48. Dani March 23, 2014 at 8:47 pm - Reply

    OH Terminus, another Woodbury or even worse? Where is everyone if it is a “Sanctuary for All” HMMMM???? What is with the cult like lady at the grill wearing Beth’s sweater? Is this Joe Carroll’s cult in the apocalypse… my head hurts.
    Rick! He looks hurt in the previews 🙁 Please don’t tell me they went to Terminus and chopped off his haaaand! MMMM MMM finger lickin’ good. :/

  49. 3373 March 23, 2014 at 8:58 pm - Reply

    To
    Enhance
    Richness
    Mary
    Is
    Not
    Using
    Salt

  50. Ricardo Colombo March 23, 2014 at 8:59 pm - Reply

    Maggie telling Glenn to burn her picture because he wouldn’t need it anymore makes me think she’s not long for this earth.

  51. Jesster March 23, 2014 at 9:01 pm - Reply

    Terminus= end-of-the-line in railroad speak. They’re cannibals and have their meat come walking right to them.

  52. Ty Gerhardt March 23, 2014 at 9:03 pm - Reply

    I have a feeling that what they find at Terminus is going to be WAY worse than cannibalism.

  53. itzystuff March 23, 2014 at 9:10 pm - Reply

    Hope everyone is watching ‘The Talking Dead’ right after TWD. Chris Hartwick is great and the guests are awesome. Really help with understanding and pointing out certain little hints in the show.

  54. 3373 March 23, 2014 at 9:27 pm - Reply

    Mary looked suspiciously like Lt. Tasha Yar, only older.

  55. John Buckle March 23, 2014 at 9:28 pm - Reply

    I hope they brought enough fava beans & chianti for everybody.

  56. Catherine Berry March 23, 2014 at 9:28 pm - Reply

    I think there is an underlying evil at terminus. Maybe caged humans and sacrifice. Definitely something wrong there. A place that looks that good has to be very bad… Run!!!

  57. Todd May March 23, 2014 at 9:36 pm - Reply

    What song was playing at the end

  58. David March 23, 2014 at 9:36 pm - Reply

    “We will make you a meal”
    enough said

  59. 3373 March 23, 2014 at 10:04 pm - Reply

    Terminus, a great place to escape walkers only to become sliders.

  60. Josh Smith March 23, 2014 at 10:07 pm - Reply

    Eugene saving the day! Glen and Maggie would’ve never reunited had it not been for Eugene and Abraham’s army saving the day. Not trusting Terminus AT ALL!!

  61. tmc March 23, 2014 at 10:29 pm - Reply

    In the last episode the (non crazy) little girl pointed out to carol the giant smog of smoke coming from I assume the direction of terminus. Seems to me that they had just bbq’d a bunch of survivors earlier (maybe beth as she was kidnapped prior to that episode)

    • orville esoy March 23, 2014 at 10:34 pm - Reply

      I think that was Daryl and Beth burning down the moonshine house.

      • tmc March 23, 2014 at 11:52 pm - Reply

        True, that is possible, but that happened on episode 12 and they witness the smoke on episode 14. I figured everything is happening linearly so that would but the time of the initial burn at maybe a couple days prior to carol witnessing the smoke. Do you think it would still be burning by that time?

        • Bastet March 24, 2014 at 3:35 am - Reply

          They’ve been showing the groups back & forth in time. Remember we saw Daryl & Beth first & how there were scuppernongs on the ground & bunnies in the log. Then we later saw Ty, Lizzie, & Mika & where those scuppernongs came from & watched Lizzie kill the bunnies. There were other little signs like that to show that what was going on with the groups didn’t run parallel with each other. With that being said, Carol, Ty, & the girls could have come up on the sight of that smoke the morning after Daryl & Beth set the fire.

        • Andrea Ouellette Johnston March 24, 2014 at 7:40 am - Reply

          I took it has being the house cause the smoke was black and then it was a lot. then also the burnt walkers. If you remember walkers was walking up to the house as they started to walk away.

  62. orville esoy March 23, 2014 at 10:32 pm - Reply

    **spoilers from comic** My guess is that the final episode will indeed be the hunters. A clue to this, or a smart red herring by AMC, is the teaser clip from “A” shows Rick showing Carl how to make a trap. Its a pretty elaborate trap that involves a funnel (the maps to terminus) and hiding the rope (making terminus look peaceful and welcoming). The similarities seems rather convenient but meeting the Hunters would be right in line with the events in the comic following the Prison. So what of Beth and how IMDB says that Morgan will be back in the final episode? Hell if i know…all I know is that Beth isn’t even suppose to exist in the comic so she could be whats cooking on the terminus welcoming party.

  63. Ressler23 March 23, 2014 at 10:35 pm - Reply

    I feel like Beth is at Terminus with Gareth. Whether she is in one piece or not…..or tied up somewhere, hidden away is still a mystery….and long live Rick!!

  64. Jonah Istifan March 23, 2014 at 10:45 pm - Reply

    Each episode title this season has been carefully thought out, I wonder what ‘A’ stands for?

  65. Ben March 23, 2014 at 10:53 pm - Reply

    I think it’s obvious that they will eat Beth for their first meal, the car will be revealed once Daryl gets there at the end of the episode with Rick, Michonne, and Carl. Tara will be taken in for medical assistance and they will prep her for cooking cause she’s limp. That’s when Glen will notice something’s is odd with Terminus because of her absence. Abraham, Eugene, Rosita, and Sasha will leave for Washington, leaving Bob to get picked off to be next to eat after binge drinking til he is unconsciously drunk. Either Abraham or Tyrese will help Ricks group against Daryl’s group, Daryl will get hurt and rushed back to Terminus. The ending clip will be Daryl’s pain of Beths death while on his death bed while Terminus people are drawing down weapons on the group.

  66. Jesse Bennett March 23, 2014 at 10:54 pm - Reply

    Good episode, got me pretty excited for the finale. There’s no way terminus turns out to be as good as it seems. Leaving the gates open? Yeah right. I also think Daryl has himself in a pretty bad crowd. When they catch up to rick hell have to make up his mind where his loyalties lie, which will be with rick if I had to put money on it. I also like all of the different stories that are going on right now but I’m ready for it all to come back together like it started to in this episode.

  67. Larizze Ocampo March 23, 2014 at 11:10 pm - Reply

    Nothing sketchy about that human body sized grill.

  68. SlipS March 23, 2014 at 11:25 pm - Reply

    and on a side not i think this episode put to rest the theory that joes group are the hunters, otherwise i think they would have eaten that guy after they killed him

  69. Ressler23 March 23, 2014 at 11:32 pm - Reply

    Gareth is in charge of Terminus?

  70. Chris Miranda March 23, 2014 at 11:39 pm - Reply

    Can’t wait till next week … Terminus is a trap… But I have a feeling Daryl will show up and save the day the only bad thing is that one of the guys got a look at rick after he was chocked out over the bed and now he can ID rick … It’s going to be mind blowing!!!! Love the show a big thank you to everybody who works soo hard to bring us the best show on tv 🙂

  71. outalw March 24, 2014 at 12:56 am - Reply

    nope. idont trust terminus. they would become the meal of the people in terminus. coz they are canival!

  72. Daniel Boyer March 24, 2014 at 1:01 am - Reply

    I definitely this Terminus is the cannibal hunters…and I think Beth is on the menu…

    I now think the funeral home was a set up to lure people in…for dinner…just as I think Terminus, is a set up to lure people in (for dinner)…

    I am thinking, Joe and his group capture Rick in the finale…good thing Daryl met up with that group…to save him…

    Finale sure does have a lot to cover, for one episode…or we are gonna have a slew of cliff hangers (which is very possible)

  73. Paul Whitaker March 24, 2014 at 3:08 am - Reply

    Terminus is way too good to be true… There were no locked gates/doors and that Mary lady is super sketchy. I would get the hell out of there.

  74. Bastet March 24, 2014 at 3:16 am - Reply

    “Those who arrive…. survive….IN MY BELLY!!”

  75. Bastet March 24, 2014 at 3:52 am - Reply

    I don’t Tweet but I can’t help checking out that homage to Terminus up there in the Twitter feed! Awesome!!

  76. GhoulishCop March 24, 2014 at 4:04 am - Reply

    No doubt it’s been mentioned before — at least I hope it has — but all the new characters introduced this season are really caricatures instead of characters. There is hardly any depth to them at all. Abraham is the muscle-y military dude (and where’s he able to find a barber in the Apocalypse to cut and coif his hair like that?); Rosita is a tart, I mean who in the Apocalypse is going to walk around in short shorts and tie off their shirt at the midriff to be all sexy? Is the show now going for the 14 year old teen boy demographic now? Eugene, surprisingly and despite his mullet, actually might have some depth to him; the gang Darryl has taken up with are simply foils to bounce Darryl off of. The writers have really fallen down with them so far this season and I hope it picks back up otherwise I’m anticipating major suck happening.

    Bringing in one or two caricatures might be fun for a bit, but when virtually every single new character introduced is like that it signals a worrisome trend.

    • marco March 24, 2014 at 7:55 am - Reply

      These new characters are dressed like that in the comics (that are great btw) and theyactually have depth, look at Abraham in the comics, or Rosita in the latests issues.

    • Gregarious Raptopoulos March 24, 2014 at 9:57 am - Reply

      Completely disagree. Season 4.2 has been the best season since season 1. It also, oddly enough, stays closest to the source material, while driving the story in completely different directions. Abe, rosita, and eugene are almost exactly pulled straight out of the comic. Joes’ s group has been a great addition, showing a ruthless group of bandits who can work within a social construct of rule.

  77. Jason Thomas March 24, 2014 at 4:37 am - Reply

    Who thinks Morgan may be at Terminus?

  78. Meredith Dougherty March 24, 2014 at 5:14 am - Reply

    In this world, there can be no true sanctuary. The only sanctuary they have is each other.

  79. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 24, 2014 at 5:23 am - Reply

    REALLY KIRKMAN? only 2 minutes of CARL? show more, PLEEEAAASSSEE

  80. Matt Stevens March 24, 2014 at 6:08 am - Reply

    I don’t know what is worse. Eugene’s “pulling techniques” or Survival Instinct.

  81. Matt Stevens March 24, 2014 at 6:09 am - Reply
  82. jmorell6 March 24, 2014 at 6:22 am - Reply

    Terminus is as trustworthy as Miley Cyrus in office for President

  83. Fawn Gray Richter March 24, 2014 at 6:23 am - Reply
  84. Jason Thomas March 24, 2014 at 6:42 am - Reply

    Abraham came through this episode seems like they are going to keep his character close to the comic which is cool .

  85. Ty Gerhardt March 24, 2014 at 7:01 am - Reply

    Cannibalism is WAY too obvious. What’s going on at Terminus is going to be way worse and have as yet unforeseen/unimagined implications that are far reaching and will make the story less intimate/local…kind of opposite of how the CDC episode made the audience feel that the group and the rest of the world was now clearly on their own. The Terminus storyline will reveal that they are not. There is order or some official governmental system in play but there is a more sinister plan…some sort of culling or experimentation. Cannibalism is just so unimaginative and frankly kind of a punt at this point. I just don’t see it happening.

  86. Shelley March 24, 2014 at 7:36 am - Reply

    Hi guys !! Have you try to review the episode Claimed ?? … Do you remember the paintings inside the house where michonne seen a picture of a woman with a blood on her mouth , the sunflower (related to Episode 14) and a white dog (related to Beth and Daryl Story) .. Therefore i strongly believe that inside the painting was Mary in the Terminus so she’s a cannibal .

    • Tanya March 25, 2014 at 7:07 am - Reply

      Yep, and Michonne said this can be useful. I think she will think back to that house and her defense mode will kick in. I also think she will be the cast member we loose. Classic magic trick watch this hand while the other is doing something else. All along Rick and Daryl where the front runners I think to take our minds off of who will be eliminated. You know TWD history, it is the little things that come back that are right in front of our faces that we tend to miss until it all comes together. That would be Rick James cold blooded if she (the woman in the painting) killed her family and left to start her on little utopia or was she crazy cannibal before the zombies came about who knows. Can not wait to find out.

  87. mike March 24, 2014 at 7:44 am - Reply

    all roads lead to this. Redemption is long forgotten, and the scars must wear themselves thin. R.I.P to the man who made the group who they are. Hershel we miss you dearly.

  88. Dustin March 24, 2014 at 7:54 am - Reply

    I can not wait until Glenn or Maggie(hopefully Glen) is killed off. I’m so sick of people on twitter saying ” Glenn and Maggie 4ever” or calling them “Glaggie” 😛 Love Eugene; he’s one of my favorite characters from the comic book so I was very happy to him using his smarts to go back for Glenn. It was an amazing episode. I always find it had to sleep on Sunday nights since my brain is so weird from thinking about that night’s show. It’s worth loosing sleep over. Oh that signed copy of issue #1 I lay CLAIM on that; it’s the rules after all 😛

  89. marco March 24, 2014 at 8:02 am - Reply
  90. Kyle Reeths March 24, 2014 at 8:15 am - Reply

    Those who arrive, survive? Anyone creeped out that there is no one around and the doors are unlocked? And how is it the Governor or any of his henchmen hadn’t seen any of these maps or signs?

  91. marco March 24, 2014 at 8:20 am - Reply

    Negan is waiting Rick in the Terminus to kill him off !!! 😮 😮

  92. Grimmy March 24, 2014 at 8:27 am - Reply

    my gut is tellling me that we have another “barn” situation. I notied there were NO signs of any walkers near this wide open place of terminus. and with the welcome signs, im thinking there is a section for people and a section for walkers.
    This show has gotten me to be so untrusting, that when we had the happy reuniting of Maggie and Glen, i got a feeling in my gut that one of them will die next week.
    as for all the cannibal claims, i see where you get this from. that was a reaaaally long grill.
    that and the apron that says “The cooking here is to DIE for”
    Terminus Cafe: now serving Soylent green!
    Grimmy
    ashamed to say he went back for seconds…and thirds…

  93. avnrulz March 24, 2014 at 8:28 am - Reply

    I thought Beth was abducted in a Caddy, not a Lincoln?

  94. Justin March 24, 2014 at 8:28 am - Reply

    Mary is cooking Beth. Terminus is going to be a mix between the farm cannibals from season 1 of the game and the hunters from the comics.

  95. Jason Thomas March 24, 2014 at 8:37 am - Reply

    I think the Sawyer’s from Texas Chainsaw Massacre are the scariest cannibals in so far be nice if The Walking Dead could top them .

  96. nedro March 24, 2014 at 8:47 am - Reply

    In the tunnel, when the cavalry arrived, I’m on my feet, going “BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA!!!” Kids are like “Wut?”

  97. Christy Miller March 24, 2014 at 8:55 am - Reply

    “Those who arrive survive” Funny enough I didn’t see any survivors, just one lady in the courtyard. Also, any place worth inhabiting in the apocalypse is usually under guard and I didn’t see anyone guarding this so called sanctuary. Since it does mean end of the line, I can’t imagine that this will play out well for any of the characters. My only hope is that everyone is reunited by the last episode and we see the whereabouts of Beth, who I believe is being held prisoner at terminus! As for Daryl I hope that once his “new” friends find Rick we will see the kick ass Daryl we all are accustomed to instead of this sad follower version of him that he has been on the last few episodes. I miss the other Daryl
    🙁

  98. James Costa March 24, 2014 at 8:59 am - Reply

    Terminus seems ok, but in TWD universe nothing is what it seems .

  99. JAMES PERRY March 24, 2014 at 9:11 am - Reply

    Daryl will kill everybody he can in Joe’s group. once Joe’s and Rick meet.

  100. Colleen Parker March 24, 2014 at 9:22 am - Reply

    No longer in guestion that Terminus is a cannibal colony. Realized the funeral home Daryl and Beth enjoyed their white trash brunch, was a trap. Kind of convenient that a car shows up to take Beth after they’ve just enjoyed that clean, organized stockpile of snacks. Fat and happy makes Mary’s good cooking.

  101. Kimo Smith March 24, 2014 at 9:30 am - Reply

    So is terminus supposed to be the community? Is Mary Nicholas wife? Is the group Daryl is with supposed to be the saviors and I think that was human meat Mary was cooking

  102. Gregarious Raptopoulos March 24, 2014 at 9:42 am - Reply

    Welcome to Terminus. Pull up a seat and grab yourself a Beth burger.

    • kahill March 27, 2014 at 9:49 am - Reply

      please, no Beth burgers ! Whether they are BFFs or a couple,I think Beth and Daryl should be together again, and back with the good guys group. I know the season finale will be a nail-biter no matter what happens.

      • Gregarious Raptopoulos March 27, 2014 at 12:17 pm - Reply

        Daryl seems to have more of an older brother relationship to Beth imo. Beth Burgers or not, something majorly gruesome is going to happen during the finale. Unless Father Gabriel and Gareth are different characters, it’s very likely that Gareth kidnapped Beth and is also the leader of Terminus. That’s my prediction at least.

  103. Tyler Sexson March 24, 2014 at 9:45 am - Reply

    I feel like there would be more than just one person to welcome them to Terminus, so that is the first thing that seems wrong with the place. It will probably be a place that they have to escape from by the end of the episode and not all of them will survive, or a place that will keep them trapped and will have to find away to escape. Either way it will be interesting to see how Abraham and Rick get along with both of them possibly seeking to be the leader of the group if/when they go to D.C.. I think that Rick will let Abraham take the lead on this one since he is claiming to following orders from what is left of the government. He see this and hopes that this will lead to some form of safe civilized place that he can take Carl to live in so he can try and give him a life that is somewhat normal again. Finding any kind of hope in the crap hole of a world, clinging on to it, and following it at all costs seems to be the driving force behind the action in the show. Which is done to great effect and drama.

  104. Gerald Gabardi March 24, 2014 at 9:51 am - Reply

    Absolutely loved what happened in this episode. We finally got to see the reunion of Maggie and Glenn! Amazing scene it was! But in Walking Dead fashion its no secret that most people believe Terminus will not be the peaceful utopia the survivors hope it will be. I feel group may walking into a evil none of have seen before and their moment of reunion bliss, will remain just that, one mere moment. The burning of Maggie’s picture could foreshadow her death or Glenn’s death. What do you think?

    • Bastet March 24, 2014 at 10:02 am - Reply

      My bet’s on Glenn. Has been for a little while.

      • thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 24, 2014 at 10:09 am - Reply

        actually, my bets on beth. though, i think its dumb to burn her only picture, as unphotogenic as she may have been. seriously, what if she dies? but i think that terminus are cannabalistic people. and beth was their first victim. DUN DUN DUHHH

      • JSunkist March 24, 2014 at 2:17 pm - Reply

        Between Maggie and Glenn who’ll go first, I’m still thinking Maggie, in regards to the burnt picture. Maggie dies, Glenn is sad, and no longer has that picture because he allowed Maggie to burn it, thus only now having a memory of her whereas if it’s Glenn, there wasn’t a picture of him to begin with, so Maggie would only have a memory of him, obviously not needing a picture of herself.

  105. Kimo Smith March 24, 2014 at 9:53 am - Reply
  106. Greg March 24, 2014 at 9:53 am - Reply

    I re watch this episode in the morning. I noticed something in the episode, Maggie is wearing Daryl Blanket at the end of the episode.

  107. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 24, 2014 at 9:54 am - Reply

    Try
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  108. Dragnoc March 24, 2014 at 10:10 am - Reply

    Why aren’t they suspicious about the Terminus ? I mean, with what they lived with the Governor, they should know something could be wrong. The name “Terminus” is not trustworthy at all.

  109. Alison Meyer Marcus March 24, 2014 at 10:33 am - Reply

    And for tonights blue plate special, BBQ Beth 🙂

  110. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 24, 2014 at 11:03 am - Reply

    I know the Gov said his wife died, but what if she didnt? wha if Mary is his wife…well, now his widow..

  111. Michael C. March 24, 2014 at 11:11 am - Reply
  112. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 24, 2014 at 11:13 am - Reply

    So I looked up Terminus on wikipedia and found some interesting info:

    Terminus, the original name of Atlanta, Georgia

    Terminus (office complex), an office complex in Atlanta
    Bus terminus, a bus station serving as an end destination
    Terminal train station or terminus, a railway station serving as an end destination

    I think thats cool.

  113. Raymond Eddie March 24, 2014 at 11:36 am - Reply

    Nothing is as it seems. This will be another WTF I cant wait till next season finally episode. Ughhh till next OCT everyone LOL

  114. JJ March 24, 2014 at 11:52 am - Reply

    I just hope they don’t meet Lucille…

  115. Greg March 24, 2014 at 12:16 pm - Reply

    Chief Boyardee made some mystery meat on the menu boys! It’s not tainted meat or Rabbit meat…

  116. Puanli March 24, 2014 at 12:42 pm - Reply

    Will Daryl be an inside or an outside cat?

  117. Michael Peach March 24, 2014 at 12:45 pm - Reply

    I anticipate the savage. This episode is leading us into what I am expecting to be the best season finale to date. I do expect the emergence of the hunters, but I’m not sure if it will be Joe’s group or the people dwelling within Terminus. I also expect the grisly attempts at Carl to come forth.

    Terminus is a mysterious chance for peace, or brutality, but I am sure the season finale will provide ‘A’ savage ending and a hell of a cliffhanger.

  118. Greg Johnson March 24, 2014 at 1:27 pm - Reply

    Mary, the female cook at Terminus, seemed almost “too calm”. The gates to terminus were not secured. The chains were just threaded but not locked. I think that Terminus is some kind of brainwashed society that worships the “walkers.” It’s like playing the Fallout games. There is always some kind of group or cult that thinks that the “zombies” or “walkers” were meant to happen and that we should try to be “one of them.”

    • Shirene March 24, 2014 at 1:31 pm - Reply

      The Terminus people are definitely some kind of brainwashed cannibal or cult group, but…worship the walkers? LOL. I mean, who knows with TWD. You could be right, but that is just way too funny! hahaha

  119. Gareth March 24, 2014 at 2:10 pm - Reply

    I find it funny how unprotected terminus is. Maybe it will look more safe in the finale. Heck, I wouldnt be suprised if Mary whipped out a 50.cal sniper rifle and blasted a walkers head off.

  120. Eric Jarvi March 24, 2014 at 2:11 pm - Reply

    Mary at terminus is wearing beths green sweater at the end of the episode. So yes i think Terminus is a cannibalistic village. They’ve got to throw the hunters arc somewhere in here. All the maps did was lead easy prey to the predator.

  121. J Terstegge March 24, 2014 at 2:31 pm - Reply

    After looking up “Terminus on “Google”-It said that ancient tribes brought food (crops) to a gathering called Terminus. This was the old sacrifice way of idea to get God to bring a bountiful crop. – Since the car with the cross in the back window grabbed Beth – and the woman who greeted the new comers was pregnant, I would guess that a white religious cult was using Terminus as advertised to gather people for food and the white females as breed stock to rebuild the white race.

  122. Gregarious Raptopoulos March 24, 2014 at 2:44 pm - Reply

    Did anyone else come across this? The paintings Michonne and Carl find during the episode “Claimed” foreshadow the whole second half of season 4. Seems pretty brilliant to me. I watch the episodes several times and still didn’t pick up on it. http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/03/24/the-walking-dead-were-these-paintings-about-mary-from-terminus/

  123. Ryan Ewing March 24, 2014 at 2:59 pm - Reply

    Either amazing Easter eggs or a huge coincidence….

  124. Jen March 24, 2014 at 3:07 pm - Reply

    If Mary says you always have to have Greenes on your plate, then goodbye Beth! 🙂 Who needs a BBQ THAT big unless you’re at the Texas State Fair? Yeah, it’s not beef that’s for dinner there.

  125. Austin Fancyadventure Anderson March 24, 2014 at 3:29 pm - Reply

    Yeah Terminus is bullshit.
    I mean, theres no people there.
    And that one chick is creepy to all hell.

  126. Chris Bigger March 24, 2014 at 3:42 pm - Reply

    Man that creepy lady told them that they looked tired and needed something to eat. I can only imagine what they are going to eat. I think Hannibal Lecter will be proud I’m afraid

  127. Keith March 24, 2014 at 3:43 pm - Reply

    Terminus might just be some sort of camp for experimentation, some wicked concentration camp maybe. Where are all the potentially hundreds of people? Why were the gates unsecured? No brain-slashed walkers lying about. We’ll see what’s in the food they eat & where they wake up. Mama said, if it sounds too good to be true, probably is.

  128. SlipS March 24, 2014 at 4:16 pm - Reply
  129. 3373 March 24, 2014 at 5:47 pm - Reply

    Did Lizzie ever mention her grandma Mary? :o)

  130. Kyle Reeths March 24, 2014 at 5:52 pm - Reply

    Anyone think that if Daryl’s new group came acrossed Beth he’d be all like, “claimed!”

  131. Dante Smith March 24, 2014 at 6:47 pm - Reply

    No they would let us see her die for more affect

  132. zach March 24, 2014 at 7:27 pm - Reply

    This is the start of them all meeting at terminus. My guess is that they are cannibals and that mary woman is cooking up Beth steaks.

  133. clay smith March 24, 2014 at 8:00 pm - Reply
  134. Matthew Caldwell March 24, 2014 at 8:33 pm - Reply

    The meat.. It’s tainted! *crazed laughter*

  135. UniqNwYrk March 24, 2014 at 8:44 pm - Reply

    A prediction that has nothing to do with cannibals: I think Rick’s brutality will come out just like it did in the comic before they hit Douglas’ Community – one of the guys from Daryl’s group will try to, ahem, have his way with Carl, and Rick will rip him apart with his bare hands. (not only did those guys mention raping whoever owned the “woman’s shirt” in the house, but Len, the bow-man arguing with Daryl in the woods, jumped at the chance to make a pedo- joke a little too quickly for my taste.) Rick will then question his humanity before they reach Terminus (this was foreshadowed in the Talking Dead clip when Carl asks how they will describe themselves to Terminus survivors). But yeah Terminus is probably populated by cannibals 😉

  136. junglecrazd1 March 24, 2014 at 8:50 pm - Reply

    Yeah, Maggie’s back 🙂 Finally Daryl finds his calling of hunting small game with a bow and a crew of inbreds. Also, terminus seems to be an ending, not a beginning; it wouldn’t be my stop #justsayin

  137. Robert Law March 24, 2014 at 9:53 pm - Reply

    Did Nicotero do another homage to Romero (and revive one of his popular zombies, Bub, from Day of the Dead)? When Glenn first sees the group of walkers in the tunnel when he’s standing atop the pile, Bub is near the front of the group on the right wearing the leather collar with the metal ring and the denim jacket.

  138. Joe March 24, 2014 at 10:07 pm - Reply

    What an ending, “welcome to terminus”. what was on the barbecue? The meat was huge! They just happened to find a few cows? I don’t think so! If they’ve stuck reasonably close to the comics, they could show Beth waking up realizing she is missing a leg (just like Dale did). Could Beth have been bitten before she was taken if so, they can do the whole “I’m tainted meat” sequence just like Dale. And is she being fed to the Glen’s group when they arrive? This finale is gonna be HUUUGGGEEE!!!!

  139. brendon March 24, 2014 at 11:55 pm - Reply

    Terminus – End of the line. Peaceful entrance, not so peaceful exit.

  140. Talara March 25, 2014 at 12:21 am - Reply

    Nothing is as good as it seems on Walking Dead. Terminus is exactly what it seems like and exactly what it means. The end of the line. If I am correct, Mary was wearing Beth’s sweater under her shawl, leading me to believe that her (or someone else from Terminus) took Beth in the hearse. Sadly, I believe that the dinner she was ready to serve up was a nice helping of BBQ Beth.

    Why would Terminus plaster signs everywhere to possibly bring in massive amounts of people? Even with the gardens there, I highly doubt there would be enough food for all of the people such could bring in. They’re luring in victims. Drawing in the unsuspecting and hopeful people who are tired from their travels. Meals on wheels that deliver themselves!

  141. Dolly Dee March 25, 2014 at 2:20 am - Reply

    Len didn’t plant the rabbit in Daryl’s bag. Joe did. He was getting tired of Len’s behavior and needed to get rid of him and he needed to win Daryl’s trust. Daryl’s not a cat. He’s a human and he needs to figure this out quickly.

  142. Spectre March 25, 2014 at 2:22 am - Reply

    It’s a trap! Lure in the Starving with the tantalizing smell of Simmering Meat. Feed them, disarm them, kill them. Prep for the next meal, rinse and repeat. Just like calling the cows home at the end of the day.

  143. Jodie Banner March 25, 2014 at 5:17 am - Reply

    I see Daryls group finding Beth, someone other than Daryl laying claim, a fight ensuing, then Joe hacks Beth in half …..

  144. The Halfrican March 25, 2014 at 5:27 am - Reply

    Popular sides at Terminus look to include Chianti and fava beans…
    Next week is going to be one action packed episode (you need to have them discover what is going on, fight with the hunters, Rick and co arrive during that, showdown with Joe’s group when they arrive, episode ends with them all hitting the road headed for Washington…)

  145. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 8:11 am - Reply

    S4E15 ‘Us’ Review

    I think this is amongst the worst written episodes for the
    Season.

    Now to be fair, it functions well as a funneling episode for
    reuniting the characters, however there were a lot of missed opportunities dialog
    wise that really would have brought better characterization and stronger
    emotional bonds between the characters. They needed better take choices than
    those that were used.

    The main groups appear to be arriving at Terminus in the following
    order:

    Group 4: Glenn, Maggie, Sasha, Bob, Tara, Abraham, Eugene and Rosita (at Terminus)
    Group 1: Michonne, Rick and Carl (drops candy wrapper on
    tracks)
    Group 3: Daryl, Joe (and 4 other marauders)(walk on candy
    wrapper on tracks)
    Group 2: Carol, Tyreese, Judith (still have not found Maggie
    signs on tracks)
    Group 5: Beth (could be a Terminus already or most likely in
    trouble somewhere else.)

    Good:

    Our band of marauders seem to function morally based on calling (or claiming)
    property as they come upon it and not lying. It’s kind of childish;
    however it does give us the mentality of this group. Daryl needs to tread
    lightly, especially around Joe. Jeff Kober did a great job (in spite of
    the material he was given). BTW: I think Joe had Len killed
    because he really wants Daryl to stay with them also I think he took the
    cigarettes from Len and would have been caught in a lie and gotten beaten up for
    doing so. (SEE the Unknown regarding this.)

    The choked out Marauder did see Rick at the safe haven and ironically Daryl
    doesn’t know that is who Joe’s group is tracking (nice thread use.)

    The special effects in the tunnel were cool. I didn’t have a problem with
    Glenn going into the tunnel knowing there were walkers in there because if
    Maggie didn’t go in there she would have written that on the wall. Therefore,
    it made sense why Glenn would want to go in the tunnel just like Maggie
    went through the walker bus. He wanted to make sure she wasn’t one of the
    walkers. Tara pointing out the blood of the walkers was fresh, so the cave in was fairly recent and it turned out Maggie caused the cave in. What she used to set off the cave in is unclear. It was good suspense. (However, I did have a problem with the
    cave in (SEE BAD.)

    Eugene’s awkward moment with Tara was great! All of his dialogue to get to that part wasn’t. He’s so socially inadequate it’s actually quite interesting. After the loss of Milton it is good to see Nerds back in the show. He does have a conscience
    though. He wanted to see Glenn get through the tunnel.

    I was expecting a little taste of Terminus which they adequately provided. Denise Crosby is now in the cast as Mary of Terminus. Star Trek the Next Generation fans may remember her role as Tasha Yar. It should be interesting to see what she brings.

    I actually love how Abraham feels he’s leading everyone but then just goes
    along with everyone still acting like he’s leading everyone “We will go to
    Terminus and then go onto Washington DC.”

    Bad:

    Faulty plot points; open ends with no season end teases and
    poor characterization.

    Maggie caused the cave in with a gun blast after being surrounded by walkers, which has even less plausibility than using explosives. This means she shot in back
    of herself causing debris to fall on the walkers behind them (Maggie, Sasha and
    Bob) and they somehow managed to get through the walkers in front of them
    without killing them. A concrete lined tunnel that has held up some of the innards of a mountain for many years is brought down by a single gunshot and didn’t trap or kill them? I would say that’s a bit of plot hole. I had a huge problem with that.

    If part of a tunnel can be brought down with a single gunshot does it make sense to be in that tunnel trying to make a cave in to kill walkers?

    No, that’s kind of stupid. What if it caves in on all of them? I think the scene was written around the cool tunnel prop and to make that work the story suffers. They could have just had the collapse already there and since it’s far into the tunnel it would make sense Maggie wouldn’t go back and change the sign. They should have just cut Maggie’s lines about the cave in and have her ask questions about Beth!

    Maggie/Glenn reunion didn’t have the emotional impact it should have had based on the actions in the previous Season four episodes by both Maggie and Glenn. Maggie’s reaction to finding him was what saved the scene. Glenn appeared to be shell shocked even after he was in private moments with Maggie. Glenn went to a lot of trouble to find her, however when he does there isn’t the emotional release I was expecting. I put that on acting, choice of reaction shot on the direction and the writing (in other words practically everything.)

    Not a single question from Maggie to Glenn about Beth??? Shouldn’t Maggie also be asking why Glenn wasn’t on the bus? Where he went after he left the bus? Had he seen Beth? Those conversations should have been in a shot.

    I noticed only one railroad switching point along the track Maggie and Glenn’s groups were both on heading towards Terminus. Surely if Terminus is a centralized railway yard where trains terminate, shouldn’t there be tons of tracks merging together from different directions? Our groups would have at the very least met up with more walkers merging into their rail line or their rail line would have merged into a main line where they met walkers or survivors.

    Where are all the people at Terminus? There has to be more people. If it ends
    up there are more people, why isn’t anyone on guard duty at the gates? There were walkers in the tunnel, where are all the walkers that should be surrounding Terminus? They could have shown people bustling around in back of Mary.

    Unknown:

    Len accused Daryl of taking his cigarettes.
    What Len seemed to forget is that 3 out of the 7 of themsmoke. (Joe smokes too.) I think Joe took Len’s cigarettes. I wonder if Daryl picked up on that? Another lost opportunity for writers to show Daryl testing Joe’s trust. Daryl could have mentioned that to Joe and just ask if he took the cigarettes (after they left Len’s body back at the garage.)

    Joe was questioning Daryl asking him when he was going to leave the group.
    This suggests in one way that they will let Daryl leave without trying to kill him.

    If this is the case why doesn’t Daryl leave them and try to find Beth?

    If Daryl thinks he will end up like Len, then I can see why he is reluctant
    to leave the group (they could kill him too). Perhaps he figures safety in numbers since they appear to be heading for Terminus then that’s the way he should head because they will find the others.

  146. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 25, 2014 at 8:46 am - Reply

    “I don’t give a monkey’s left nut” I would have far preferred a gorrilla’s right testicle.

  147. Bryce Treese March 25, 2014 at 9:40 am - Reply
  148. JP March 25, 2014 at 9:57 am - Reply

    Beth I hear you calling, but I cant come home right now

  149. Erin Kellogg March 25, 2014 at 10:01 am - Reply

    Tender Eatin’ Roasted Meat Individuals Nice Until Salivating.

  150. Donna Kauffman March 25, 2014 at 10:17 am - Reply

    SOYLENT GREEN is PEOPLE!!!!!!!

  151. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 25, 2014 at 10:48 am - Reply

    so i was being the spoiler fanatic that i am, and i found a new zealand trailer that showed rick at terminus!

    Check it out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNWdXzWH-a4

  152. lostin757 March 25, 2014 at 11:10 am - Reply

    I think that Mary and Lizzie are related! And since Lizzie was killed, they are showing what she would have become in the future…

  153. lostin757 March 25, 2014 at 11:16 am - Reply

    The group saw a nice lady, the nice lady saw people chops!!!

  154. Ian Watson March 25, 2014 at 12:28 pm - Reply

    I think daryl will end up killing his group to save rick and Carl. Eugene will be the person that caused the breakout that is why he knows how to stop it. Right a the last second of the finale Eugene will be killed taking the cause and the cure of the breakout with him to his grave, leaving no chance of a cure to be found.
    That’s my little bit added. Lol

  155. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 12:29 pm - Reply

    I trust that Terminus is a Termination of some of ‘Us’

  156. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 12:30 pm - Reply

    The main groups appear to be arriving at Terminus in the following
    order:

    Group 4: Glenn and Maggie’s group, (Sasha, Bob, Tara,
    Abraham, Eugene and Rosita (at Terminus)

    Group 1: Michonne, Rick and Carl (drops candy wrapper on
    tracks)

    Group 3: Daryl, Joe (and 4 other marauders)(walk on candy
    wrapper on tracks)

    Group 2: Carol, Tyreese, Judith (still have not found Maggie
    signs on tracks)

    Group 5: Beth (could be a Terminus already or most likely in
    trouble somewhere else.)

  157. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 12:32 pm - Reply

    Len accused Daryl of taking his cigarettes. What Len seemed to forget is that 3 out of
    the 7 of them smoke. (Joe smokes
    too.) I think Joe took Len’s
    cigarettes. I wonder if Daryl picked up
    on that?

  158. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 12:33 pm - Reply

    Not a single question from Maggie to Glenn about
    Beth??? Shouldn’t Maggie also be asking
    why Glenn wasn’t on the bus? Where he
    went after he left the bus? Had he seen
    Beth?

  159. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 12:34 pm - Reply

    Joe was questioning Daryl asking him when he was going to leave the group.

    This suggests in one way that they
    will let Daryl leave without trying to kill him.

    If this is the case why doesn’t
    Daryl leave them and try to find Beth?

  160. DLion March 25, 2014 at 1:01 pm - Reply

    One of the cannibal members of Terminus could be running the Mortuary trap and they have Walker loved ones being “preserved” in Terminus but all reconstructed with make-up to make them appear “normal”. They trap survivors in all the unbelievably spic n’ span places the survivors run into and terminate them by feeding on them and feeding the remains to the Walkers. The “Claim” Hunter group might actually be hunting more survivors to trick into coming with them to Terminus as they are also part of that cannibal community. I sincerely hope Beth is not going to be on the plates being served by freaky Mary. But then again Norman Reedus did tweet a few eps back that “he ate Beth”. Oh no :'( Just when I was beginning to like Beth. Please don’t kill off Tara. She IS seriously hot!

  161. Lydia Nolfo March 25, 2014 at 1:22 pm - Reply

    I believe Mary is the girl in the painting from episode 11 that Michonne and Carl found! Mary is a cannibal, camp terminus is a cannibal camp. Mary went crazy once her family died (the dead people in the bed from episode 11 that michone discovered) Mary was barbecuing someone from the group, and she was wearing their jacket. So someone is dead and I’m trying to find out who’s jacket she’s wearing! Rick discovers the body this season finale! Who’s ever jacket Mary was wearing last episode is the person who’s dead from the group!

  162. Lydia Nolfo March 25, 2014 at 1:34 pm - Reply
  163. Austin Fancyadventure Anderson March 25, 2014 at 2:02 pm - Reply

    Obviously Terminus is a trap. There was no people there. If all those people saw those signs the place would be filled to the brim with people. Also, that one chick has the same creepy vibe as the John’s brothers from the telltale games series. Even to the point of food being the only thing she seems mention. Just like the at the dairy. Where “Dinner” Was all the hype for them. (Or I’m just making a wild analogy based on the fact of what terminus might be) Plus the storyline matching up to the time with the…
    *spoiler alert*
    Hunters, so Terminus is just them…
    Or a parallel universe where the moon falls in three days.

  164. Don Malinowski March 25, 2014 at 2:10 pm - Reply

    Carl will eat Rick when he realizes the pudding didn’t quite hit the spot

  165. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 2:16 pm - Reply

    S4E15 ‘Us’

    I think this is amongst the worst written episodes for the Season.

    To be fair, it functions well as a funneling episode for reuniting the
    characters, however there were a lot of missed opportunities dialog wise that
    really would have brought better characterization and stronger emotional bonds
    between the characters. They needed better take choices than those that were
    used. I also think Episode 11 should have been named ‘Us’ and Episode 15
    ‘Claimed’.

    Good:

    • The band of marauders seem to function morally based on calling (or claiming)
    property as they come upon it and not lying. It’s kind of childish; however it
    does give us the mentality of this group. Daryl needs to tread lightly,
    especially around Joe. Jeff Kober did a great job (in spite of the material he
    was given).

    • The choked out Marauder did see Rick at the safe haven and
    ironically Daryl doesn’t know that is who Joe’s group is tracking (nice thread
    use.)

    • I didn’t have a problem with Glenn going into the tunnel knowing there were walkers in there because if Maggie didn’t go in there she would have written that on the wall. Therefore, it made sense why Glenn would want to go in the tunnel just like Maggie went through the walker bus. He wanted to make sure she wasn’t one of the walkers. Tara pointing out the blood of the walkers was fresh, so the cave in was fairly
    recent and it turned out Maggie caused the cave in. What she used to set off
    the cave in is unclear. It was good suspense. (However, I did have a problem
    with the cave in (See Bad comments.)

    • Eugene’s awkward moment with Tara was great! The five minutes of his
    dialogue to get to that part wasn’t. He’s so socially inadequate it’s actually
    quite interesting. After the loss of Milton it is good to see Nerds back in the show. He does have a conscience though. He wanted to see Glenn get through the tunnel.

    • I was expecting a little taste of Terminus which they adequately provided.
    Denise Crosby is now in the cast as Mary of Terminus. Star Trek the Next
    Generation fans may remember her role as Tasha Yar. It should be interesting to
    see what she brings.

    • I actually love how Abraham feels he’s leading everyone but then just goes
    along with everyone still acting like he’s leading everyone “We will go to
    Terminus and then go onto Washington
    DC.”

    Bad:

    Faulty plot points; open ends with no season end teases and poor
    characterization.

    • I believe Maggie said she caused the cave in with a gunshot after being
    surrounded by walkers. This means she shot in back of herself causing debris to
    fall on the walkers behind them and they somehow managed to get through the
    walkers in front of them. They did so without killing them all or having the
    walkers follow them out of the tunnel. Instead the walkers opted to hover around the rubble in the tunnel. Really?

    A concrete lined tunnel that has held up some of the innards of a mountain for
    many years is brought down by a single gunshot and didn’t trap or kill them?

    I would say that’s a bit of plot hole. I had a huge problem with that.

    If part of a tunnel can be brought down with a single gunshot does it make
    sense to be in that tunnel trying to make a cave in to kill walkers?

    No, that’s kind of stupid. What if it caves in on all of them?

    I think the scene was written around the tunnel prop and to make that work the
    story suffers. They could have just had the collapse already there and since
    it’s far into the tunnel it would make sense Maggie wouldn’t go back and change
    the sign.

    • Maggie/Glenn reunion didn’t have the emotional impact it should have had
    based on the actions in the previous Season four episodes by both Maggie and
    Glenn. Maggie’s reaction to finding him was what saved the scene. Glenn
    appeared to be shell shocked even after he was in private moments with Maggie.
    Glenn went to a lot of trouble to find her, however when he does there isn’t
    the emotional release I was expecting. I put that on acting, choice of reaction
    shot on the direction and the writing (in other words practically everything.)

    • Not a single question from Maggie to Glenn about Beth??? Shouldn’t Maggie
    also be asking why Glenn wasn’t on the bus? Where he went after he left the
    bus? Had he seen Beth? Those conversations should have been in a shot.

    • I noticed only one railroad switching point along the track Maggie and
    Glenn’s groups were both on heading towards Terminus. Surely if Terminus is a
    centralized railway yard where trains terminate, shouldn’t there be tons of
    tracks merging together from different directions? Our groups would have at the
    very least met up with more walkers merging into their rail line or their rail
    line would have merged into a main line where they met walkers or survivors.

    • Where are all the people at Terminus? There has to be more people. If it ends
    up there are more people, why isn’t anyone on guard duty at the gates? There
    were walkers in the tunnel, where are all the walkers that should be
    surrounding Terminus?

    • fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 7:52 pm - Reply

      To make the Tunnel scene work better having a shot of walkers going into the tunnel from the other side and also take out the dialog about the cave in being fresh from earlier that day. Instead make the cave in preexisting to either group. If the cave in is a long way into the tunnel than you can have walkers for them to eliminate on the way. This will add to the existing suspense and not give away whether Maggie is dead or alive to Glenn. The walkers entering the cave on the other side helps explain why there was a horde of walkers after the cave in after Maggie’s group left. They could also add dead zombies after the cave in to help corroborate Maggie had gotten through there or at least someone else had gotten through.

  166. Tommy Rain March 25, 2014 at 4:04 pm - Reply
  167. fluidpockets March 25, 2014 at 7:42 pm - Reply

    Some speculation: Does Michonne know Tara was part of the Governor’s group? If that is the case then Maggie will find out that Tara was with the Governor. That may cause friction between Maggie and Glenn because he fibbed about how he met her.

  168. Donald R Williams.jr March 26, 2014 at 6:31 pm - Reply

    terminus is the last step before hell. no one survives .

  169. Corey Webster March 26, 2014 at 10:08 pm - Reply

    Terminus is a big fucking trap. When Glenn, Abraham et al roll up there I made a few observations about some red flags. Red Flag #1: all the signs and maps along the train tracks. Any psycho, hoodlum or dreg of humanity could roll up to Terminus who see the signs on the road. Who the hell advertises their sanctuary?! Or has time to do so by posting up a bunch of signs for miles and miles?! Rick didn’t have any signs up on the road saying “Come join us in the prison- here’s directions to it”. Red Flag #2: there is no guard tower/no one stationed on the top of the main building to see what random people could be wandering in. Red Flag #3: The first fence is NOT locked, nor is there is a fence all the way around the first entrance, like by the train tracks that border it. Red Flag #4: The second gate that Glenn pushes open is not locked EITHER, and they just come right in. Who the hell does that in a supposed “safe zone”?! The place is too fishy, and just obviously so. Shouldn’t everyone’s guard be up upon entering the place given all they’ve been through (meaning Sasha, Glenn, Abraham et al)?! Terminus is just too good to be true. It’s like a scene out of a bad horror movie from the 80’s where a group of people wander naively into a bad situation that all of us see coming. And then all of their asses get trapped and they have to fight their way out after saying to each other “Oops- we never should have come here!” That lady Mary at Terminus is probably a Hunter and was cooking up a human leg when she greeted everyone.

  170. Shelley March 27, 2014 at 8:23 am - Reply

    Based on Epoch.com website – their prediction about Beth is she was kidnapped by a Pastor/Priest Gabriel (on comics) after she escape and running out came from the funeral homes and take her to the church … As you have notice there is a cross at the back of a car ….

    The other prediction is , she was kidnapped by the hunters and take her to the terminus

  171. Tania Rodrigues March 28, 2014 at 10:32 pm - Reply

    Actually, Mary says “let me make you a plate”. Is she going to make THEM into a plate?

    Terminus is the clean trap extension of the Beth/Darryl house. No walkers in sight, everything in a row and set up like a Disneyland set. There is a massa walkers hidden here somewhere. There is also probably a human meat locker for the ones they fatten up at the house, trick outside with the dog and then slaughter in a way that stops them from turning. None of the bodies at the funeral home had head wounds.?

    Terminus prediction: Glenn’s group comes in, cleans up, gets ready to have some ( where have all the cows been hiding? ) chow and then one of them stumbles on the “secret”. Eugene is starting to man up. I like him . He is super quirky. He will die before Washington and the reason for the walkers will die with him. Darryl will kill a nice chunk of those hunters, but not all of them. It’s a tough one , but my prediction for deaths in the last episode originally were Michonne or Glenn, but I think they are just leading us to think that and have something else in store. I say Beth ( in front of Maggie) and Sasha. I WANT That #1!!!!

  172. 3373 March 28, 2014 at 10:51 pm - Reply

    One small thing keeps bothering me. At the end, Joe started yet another car for them all to go off in. It’s been a couple of years and there are alot of knowledgeable manly men and savvy women among the survivors so don’t they know that gasoline degrades and goes bad eventually? Not to mention the dead car batteries, but at least they’ve covered that in the series. When are they going to have to give up on cars completely for transportation? I’m probably being overly sensitive to the issue, but everything else seems so spot on. Are they continuing to use vehicles in the comics still? Sorry if it’s a silly question!

    • Bastet March 29, 2014 at 5:36 am - Reply

      Certainly not a silly question! You can get about 2 years’ use on today’s gas. If it comes from a larger storage, like a gas pump instead of other vehicles, it could last longer. There are also things that you can add to gas to stabilize it and/or “reconstitute” it. It may seem like a substantial amount of time has passed in the show, but I put it at around 2 years at the most, so this will probably be an issue in the near future.

      As for the comic, I see larger vehicles being used, some being military type that probably use diesel, which has a longer life.

      • 3373 March 29, 2014 at 9:21 am - Reply

        Thanks! I guess if it goes on long enough, things will only get worse rather than better if they lose their best mode of transportation. Big step backwards. I hope there are a lot of horses in Georgia! :o)


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