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Episode 415: Coverage Roundup

If you haven’t checked out our awesome articles and some of the great Walking Dead content from around the web, here’s a shortlist of the best stuff around!

Episode 415 Recap & Discussion from TheWalkingDead.com

Episode 415 Post-Mortem interview with Robert Kirkman from TheWalkingDead.com

Greg Nicotero talks Terminus and what’s ahead over at the Hollywood Reporter

The most popular fan predictions about the Season 4 finale from TheWalkingDead.com

And, going back to “The Grove” (Episode 414) for a second, check out Dr. Ali Mattu’s dissection of Lizzie!

  1. Dori Fleischmann March 26, 2014 at 2:50 pm - Reply

    You all look a little road weary…let me get you a plate! Beth, she’s what’s for dinner! 😉

    Thanks also for the tunnel Bub…

  2. fluidpockets March 27, 2014 at 7:20 am - Reply

    Walking Dead: The Train Tunnel Scene (deconstructed)

    The Train Tunnel full of Walkers was a wonderful prop.

    However, the story suffers due to dialog inconsistencies between
    what Maggie said has happened and what we are actually seeing in the
    Train Tunnel.

    I believe Maggie said she caused the cave in with a gunshot after
    being *surrounded by walkers* inside of the Train Tunnel. Let’s walk
    through that:

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    Deconstruction possibility #1:

    1. This means she shot in *back* of herself causing debris to fall on the walkers behind them.

    2. Maggie, Sasha and Bob somehow managed to get through the walkers
    in front of them. They did so without killing them all or having the
    walkers follow them out of the tunnel.

    3. Instead the walkers opted to hover around the rubble in the train tunnel. Really?

    Is that plausible? No…

    Deconstruction possibility #2:

    What about this version?

    1. Maggie, Sasha and Bob are in the Train Tunnel and a horde of walkers are ahead of them.

    2. Maggie shoots at the ceiling in *front* of them and all the debris falls on every single walker that’s in front of them.

    3. They climb over the pile managing not to kill a single trapped
    walker and no walkers are in front of them at all which is why there are
    no walker bodies after the rubble.

    4. After they leave the tunnel new walkers pile up at the rubble spot on both sides.

    Is that plausible? Still no I am afraid…

    Maggie says when she took the gunshot they were “surrounded by
    Walkers”. The scenario directly above this comment doesn’t work then.
    It only covers the circumstance if Walkers were all in front of them;
    not surrounding them.

    The first scenario fits Maggie’s dialog the best.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    How this all fails:

    A concrete lined train tunnel that has held up some of the
    innards of a mountain for many years is brought down by a single gunshot
    and didn’t trap or kill them?

    I would say that’s a bit of plot hole. I had a huge problem with that.

    If part of a tunnel can be brought down with a single gunshot
    does it make sense to be in that tunnel trying to make a cave in to kill
    walkers?

    No, that’s kind of stupid. What if it caves in on all of them?

    I think the scene was written around the tunnel prop and to make that work the story suffers.

    Inconsistencies with the scene as it is:

    1. There are no large piles of dead walkers after the cave in rubble.

    We have to assume there would be *some* dead walkers lying on the
    ground in front of the cave in to show that Maggie, Sasha and Bob
    fought their way out of the tunnel and escaped. If you look at the
    shots where Glenn shines the flashlight on top of the pile of rubble
    looking ahead you only see walkers. There isn’t a single dead zombie
    lying on the ground, which their should be if Maggie was surrounded.

    2. There are a *lot* of walkers hanging out after the rubble of the cave in inside of the train tunnel.

    Wouldn’t (most if not all) the walkers have followed Maggie,
    Sasha and Bob out of the cave? I guess we can assume after they left a
    horde of walkers continued to enter that tunnel entrance and piled up
    next to the rubble.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Solutions?

    Eliminating the walkers in the cave after the cave in would ruin
    the situation because you would lose the great bonding scene between
    Glenn and Tara and the rescue by Maggie and crew of Glenn and Tara.

    Is there a better solution using what is already there?

    Here’s where simple dialog modifications (better writing) can make this work.

    1. Simply change Maggie’s dialog to indicate that they weren’t
    *surrounded* by Walkers but there was a huge horde of Zombies in *front
    of them* so she created the cave in with the gunshot. Everything will
    be consistent for the second possibility to work.

    or

    2. Add a shot of walkers going into the tunnel from the other
    side and also take out Maggie’s dialog about causing the cave in and
    Tara’s dialog about the cave in being fresh from earlier that day.

    Instead make the cave in preexisting to either group.

    This will make add to the existing suspense and not give away whether Maggie is dead or alive to Glenn.

    Maggie can instead explain to Glenn that she was too far into the tunnel to go back and put the cave in on her sign.

    The walkers entering the cave on the other side helps with both
    solutions at explaining why there was a horde of walkers after the cave
    in after Maggie’s group left.

    They could also litter the ground with dead zombies amongst the
    walker horde after the cave in to help corroborate Maggie had gotten
    through there or at least someone else had gotten through.
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