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Episode 412: Still-Recap and Discussion

Well, for anyone missing Daryl last week, you’re in for a treat this week! All Daryl, all the time! The last we saw of Daryl and Beth they were tracking survivors from the prison, their friendship somewhat strained by their attitudes: Daryl pessimistic, Beth hopeful.

This week continues with them on the road. It’s night time and Daryl and Beth burst out of the woods, and quickly duck into the trunk of a Caddy as walkers swarm the car. Come morning, things have pretty much cleared out and the two scavenge what they can from the area.

They set up a camp in the woods, and after missing a squirrel, Daryl manages to bag a rattlesnake. Tasty! As Daryl continues to act surly Beth says she wants her first drink now that Hershel’s no longer around. Daryl remains completely unresponsive and Beth walks off.

After an encounter with some walkers, Beth says she’s moving on AND getting that drink while she’s at it. Next stop: country club!

The inside of the country club may have been nice at some point but now it’s a horror show. The attempted group suicide did not go as plan: we see a handful of walkers hanging by their necks from the rafters, all moans and gurgles.

Beth finds a souvenir spoon from Washington, DC (foreshadowing?!) while Daryl loots (Beth: “What are you doing?”) until walkers start breaking through the door. They move further into the darkened country club. Beth makes a play for some cooking sherry and gets ambushed by a walker. She kills and then sarcastically thanks Daryl for his help. “You said you could take care of yourself. You did.”

The search continues into the merch department. Daryl does some looting. Beth does some shopping. There’s a corpse pinned to the wall with sign on her chest: RICH BITCH. Looks like things went poorly at the country club at the end.

Walkers approach the sound of a clock chiming and Daryl decides to fight them off. Crossbow, golf club, handheld arrow. He tees off (almost literally) on the last one, taking out some pent up aggression.

Beth gives a rousing speech about having a drink and hits the bar. Daryl pulls a map off the wall while Beth gets ready to drink some peach schnapps. Daryl throws darts at pictures of the founder of the club while Beth starts crying, I’m assuming because all the nice whiskeys are gone. Before she can take a swig Daryl smashes the bottle of schnapps on the ground. “I ain’t gonna have your first drink be no damn peach schnapps.”

As they make their way through the woods, Beth plays everyone’s favorite game: Guess Daryl’s Occupation. Daryl doesn’t see how it matters what he did.

They find a place that Daryl says he found with Michonne, a moonshiner’s place. He pours Beth a glass of moonshine. You know what’s worse than Peach Schnapps? Poison-ass moon shine. Beth sips it and unrealistically does not have an uncontrollable coughing fit.

Daryl explains how he recognized the place for what it is because his dad had a place just like it. Then the drinking starts.

They play Never Have I Never. It doesn’t get very far before Daryl finds it too invasive (he doesn’t like that Beth assumed he’d done hard time). But we do learn that Daryl has never left Georgia or been on vacation (or eaten frozen yogurt or had a pet pony). Daryl ends the game by taking a piss. In the corner. And then accusing Beth of all sorts of things. He forces Beth outside to teach her how to shoot a crossbow which doesn’t go very well.

They end up yelling at each other. Beth’s angry that Daryl’s shut down. She thinks that he doesn’t esteem her like he does the stronger women in the group. It kind of comes out that Daryl blames himself for what happened at the prison. He starts crying and women all over America suddenly become pregnant.

That night Daryl tells a story about getting in a fight with Merle’s dealer and how he almost died because Merle made a joke about a cartoon with a talking dog in it (Science Dog?!). He then says that what he did before the outbreak was follow Merle around. He just did whatever Merle said they were doing that day. Who had “bum” in the Daryl Occupation Pool?

Beth starts talking about all the people she misses and the things that won’t happen—Maggie and Glenn having a baby and her dad being a grandfather. Beth says that she’ll die on Daryl some day too. She says that Daryl will be the last man standing. “You have to stay who you are, not who you were.” Beth says that Daryl has to put places like this behind him or it’ll kill him. “We should go inside,” says Daryl. “We should burn it down,” says Beth.

They torch the house, the surrogate for Daryl’s dad’s cabin and—ultimately—his crummy childhood, as The Mountain Goats’ “Up the Wolves” plays. They flip the bird at the structure fire and Daryl smiles as the two walk away from burning house.

What did you guys think of the episode?!
Has Daryl put his demons to rest?
What’s the dynamic between Daryl and Beth?
What happens next?!

Lizzy and I will pick our favorite comment (not necessarily the one with the most upvotes) to win a 10″ Daryl Dixon figure from McFarlane! Your comment should bring deeper understanding of the characters or episode, entertain us, be smart, and engage other readers. Or maybe it’s just something personal that ties you to the show. In short, something that makes the comment section a good read.

PS: Here’s what The Mountain Goats’ John Darnielle has to say about the song:

“I’m always trying to figure out what to say about this god damn song… I think it’s a song about the moment in your quest for revenge when you learn to embrace the futility of it. The moment when you know that the thing you want is ridiculous and pompous and a terrible thing to want anyway. The direction in which you’re headed is not the direction in which you want to go, yet you’re going to head that way a while longer anyway cause that’s just the kind of person you are.”

Fairly on the nose.

UPDATE! A Cat That’s Blue has our favorite comment and gets a badass McFarlane Daryl fig: “I’d initially thought the broken/worn out arrow was going to be a bigger ‘thing’ you know, sort of a plot device they’d have to deal with, that Daryl’s been overrelying on that weapon and it eventually wears out. I kind of like that it was more symbolic, honestly, that it he showed that *they* were wearing out, losing their edge. And Beth using the mirror to start the fire was a neat foreshadowing of the end of the episode. Not just the fire itself, but that the fire happened as a result of really, truly ‘seeing themselves’, not in a mirror, but seeing themselves as they were for the first time.”

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  1. Chris Bigger March 2, 2014 at 7:21 pm - Reply
  2. Jason Thomas March 2, 2014 at 7:23 pm - Reply

    I think Beth had a good idea trying to find some liquor you got to knock off some things from your bucket list even in the zombie apocalypse.

  3. Jonathon Moreau March 2, 2014 at 7:24 pm - Reply

    Alternate episode title: “Daryl is kind of abusive when he’s sad.”

  4. Chris Bigger March 2, 2014 at 7:24 pm - Reply

    Blame on the goose got you feeling loose
    Blame it on patron got you in the zone
    Blame it on al al al al alcohol (blame it on al al al alcohol)
    Blame it on the vodka
    Blame it on the henney
    Blame it on the blue top got you feeling dizzy
    Blame it on al al al al alcohol (blame it on al al al alcohol)

  5. Chris Bigger March 2, 2014 at 7:25 pm - Reply

    Thought it was cool to hear Daryl talk about Merle

  6. Jason Thomas March 2, 2014 at 7:27 pm - Reply

    Burning down the house definitely would have been fun but I would have saved a little moonshine for the walk .

  7. Chris Bigger March 2, 2014 at 7:28 pm - Reply

    Daryl zombie kill of the week

  8. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 2, 2014 at 7:36 pm - Reply

    The middle finger thing was weird at the end…leave that to Abraham, guys…

  9. PAULA K. SCHMIDT March 2, 2014 at 7:43 pm - Reply

    wasnt my favorite episode, but the ending feeling resolution was good

  10. Gene Earl March 2, 2014 at 7:47 pm - Reply

    How far apart are the survivors from each other? 5 mile radius, 10 miles?

  11. debbie juggan March 2, 2014 at 7:55 pm - Reply

    My favorite of this episode is seeing Daryl finely show his feelings. That was a very moving scene.

  12. lynneblack March 2, 2014 at 8:07 pm - Reply

    Worst episode.. of the entire series.
    yes, i said it. no regrets.

  13. loranna238 March 2, 2014 at 8:08 pm - Reply
  14. marvin jung March 2, 2014 at 8:08 pm - Reply

    This episode was epic because it wasn’t just about a bond being developed by Daryl and Liz, it had to do with much more, which I feel had a major impact dealing with Rebirth…these two characters weren’t necessarily hiding who they were before the zombie outbreak. Unfortunately they both had to grow within this zombie break and both had difficulty breaking those old world ties.

    This episode was so very symbolic of what many of us feel; we want to burn the past because the reality is, the past is what holds us back from going forward. Our two characters need to change who, and what, they are, hence the comment by Liz about dying…this is the new world, the new reality, which is also why Daryl was trying to teach her how to use the crossbow, another analogy for “just in case one of us dies” mentality.

    And the time spent in the house; Wow, talk about some insight from a single scene! It wasn’t a mansion or even nice, but for a moment, it was home. It was a moment where the past wasn’t that bad and missed. But the rush of unhappiness, fate, sadness overcame those initial feelings. The home was a pocket of memories in which the bad outweighed the good.

    And the rebirth? Simple. A baptism by fire. And like a phoenix, Liz and Daryl are reborn.


  15. Alfonso PC March 2, 2014 at 8:12 pm - Reply

    Slow and boring episode. It’s ok to get to know each character on a deeper level, but don’t make it like on a slow way. I understand that this episode was focused on Beth, and that’s why every single thing was a bit childish style (the plot, what we saw during the episode). The 2 minutes or something where Daryl opens up in his own way were beautiful, same thing for the final minutes. I have to say that along with episode 1 this was the least interesting of all so far. Can’t wait for the next episode, it’s going to be rad. Happy to see that things are about to get ugly again.

    PS. Gotta’ love the Wasington D.C. hint!

    • Bastet March 3, 2014 at 8:16 am - Reply

      Daryl & Beth will be munching on something (although I don’t know how you’d eat squirrel or snake with a spoon), Daryl will ask, “Where do we go now, now that you’ve got your drink on?” Beth will look down at the spoon & say, “Let’s go to DC…it’s as good a place as any.”

  16. Chris Bigger March 2, 2014 at 8:15 pm - Reply

    I really liked Beth and Daryl burning down the house. It was like Daryl had come to terms that he was so much better then what his dad and Merle made him think that he was. Daryl was saying goodbye to the physcial and mental abuse that he was put through. So it was really fitting for Beth and Daryl to flip the house off. it was Daryl saying i’m better then all of this so F -OFF!!!! Now thats how you party like a true rock star redneck style

  17. Rance Hudak March 2, 2014 at 8:15 pm - Reply

    I am a huge fan of the TV show. The TV show is what introduced me to one of the greatest comic books of all time. The episode tonight in my opinion was really boring. The only thing I liked was getting to know more about Daryl’s Backstory. The whole scene with Beth wanting a drink really annoyed me. It’s the zombie Apocalypse. You don’t drink when there is a chance you could be eaten. I thought it was a really bad choice to make Beth look so immature. Daryl could have had more action scenes. He is the best character on the show. They shouldn’t make him look weak. I know that it is just to try to build his character but it kind of ruined it in my opinion. I know this comment is going to give me no chance at all to win a awesome figure but I feel this is the best place to vent my feelings. Please reply if you agree or disagree on my opinion. If you think I am wrong please explain to me what I am missing. If you think I am right let me know.

    • Pablo Martínez Dutra March 3, 2014 at 12:31 am - Reply

      When people realize this show is a drama, we’ll be stop being forced to read comments like this. Until then… A big hug to those who really understand the whole The Walking Dead universe.

      • Rance Hudak March 3, 2014 at 7:05 am - Reply

        I know it’s drama. I totally understand that. You can’t say that the whole scene with Beth wanting to get drunk was entertaining. I like drama and I also like action. I like how the world affects the survivors. I just don’t like stupid stuff like that.

        • Rance Hudak March 3, 2014 at 7:09 am - Reply

          Drinking Alcohol impairs your way of thinking and your judgment. It also effects your skills ( such as Daryl using the crossbow). That is just my opinion.

          • Pablo Martínez Dutra March 3, 2014 at 12:18 pm

            Really the only thing you see is a girl trying to get wasted? It’s way more than that my friend. It’s someone trying to find a rythm in this new world, and at the same time trying to adjust his new life to all the things that now have changed. Also, it’s a little rest. Have you ever rested with a good drink? Well, this are human being working their ass off to survive, so, it’s kind of a job nowadays, you have to rest sometimes haha

          • Rance Hudak March 3, 2014 at 12:33 pm

            I agree with you on some aspects. Everyone could use a drink but she chose the wrong time to do it. They are not in the safest area to relax and rest. They have to be on their guard 24/7 due to the fact that there is only 2 of them with the chance of zombie appearing at any second. You shouldn’t be trying to get wasted with the chance of danger around every corner. Then what pissed me off even more was that she was trying to get Daryl to drink. If both survivors are drunk there is nothing that can stop the zombies from attacking. I would have maybe accepted her trying to get wasted if she wasn’t trying to get Daryl to drink. All’s I’m saying is that she chose the wrong time.

          • Chris Bigger March 3, 2014 at 3:29 pm
          • Pablo Martínez Dutra March 4, 2014 at 10:24 am

            I most insist. She’s not trying to get wasted. Just to drink alcohol for
            the first time. It’s an episode about growing. She’s a teenager who
            just lost his father, she needs that drink. It’s like a personal mission
            to forget where they are.

          • Rance Hudak March 5, 2014 at 9:23 am

            I have to agree with what you said. She wasn’t trying to get wasted, but it being her first time drinking alcohol (Moonshine being the first drink) she would have been hammered with 1-2 glasses due to the high alcohol levels. Moonshine is a really hard drink and in reality she would have been on the floor passed out.

    • Bastet March 3, 2014 at 6:47 am - Reply

      There is no right or wrong, regarding your opinion. It’s simply your opinion, and I, for one, share it.

    • TheZildjman March 3, 2014 at 10:07 pm - Reply

      I agree with everything you said except the part about making Daryl look weak. They should give his character flaws. It makes him way more interesting than in one-dimensional zombie killer of recent memory. They didn’t even really make him look weak, only broken down mentally. At the end of this episode, however, he seems to have worked through some of that.

    • Jenx Byron March 7, 2014 at 6:44 pm - Reply

      As Glenn said when confronted about his choice to have sex with Maggie, in this world, you might be dead tomorrow. Have a damn drink once in a while. Do something just because you want to, whether that walker gets you tomorrow or not. Just surviving gets old. You are just as likely to make mistakes and get killed because you aren’t reacting due to the tedium and depression. Daryl looked HUMAN, ’cause he is one. So is Beth. Rick didn’t look so badass hiding and sneaking away from those home invaders, now did he? Did that ruin his character for you?

  18. a cat that's blue March 2, 2014 at 8:15 pm - Reply

    I’d initially thought the broken/worn out arrow was going to be a bigger ‘thing’ you know, sort of a plot device they’d have to deal with, that Daryl’s been overrelying on that weapon and it eventually wears out. I kind of like that it was more symbolic, honestly, that it he showed that *they* were wearing out, losing their edge. And Beth using the mirror to start the fire was a neat foreshadowing of the end of the episode. Not just the fire itself, but that the fire happened as a result of really, truly ‘seeing themselves’, not in a mirror, but seeing themselves as they were for the first time.

  19. George March 2, 2014 at 8:16 pm - Reply

    This just in!!!!! The Walking Dead can now show swearing! The tension is on, the risks are high, and the episodes are terrible!

  20. Chuck Slaybaugh March 2, 2014 at 8:20 pm - Reply

    Brought more to the table for both characters. Lots of background and lots of feels. Great episode for sure. Made me miss all of the loved ones we’ve lost, on and off the show.

  21. joshua herrington March 2, 2014 at 8:22 pm - Reply

    Its all about new beginings with them two daryl is struggling to be a giod guy something he never was with merle around and beth has always been qith herschel and maggie never got to be a kid so beginings great episode love them two together

  22. MariángeL March 2, 2014 at 8:24 pm - Reply

    I loved this episode! the way he started, not talking at all, then the anger, until she touched him right there where he exploded and they threw all the feelings at once. and finally at the porch you could feel them both kinda relaxed after all those tense moments they’ve had. I really really liked it!

  23. Quinton Moss March 2, 2014 at 8:24 pm - Reply

    I honestly don’t know how to feel about tonight’s episode.

  24. David March 2, 2014 at 8:24 pm - Reply

    I hope it is better next episode.

  25. meme March 2, 2014 at 8:26 pm - Reply

    Everyone wants to try something new when there is no promise of tomorrow.

  26. Ricardo Colombo March 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm - Reply

    I knew Daryl hadn’t given up on life. He was dealing with his own sense of guilt for what happened to the prison, feeling that he was their protector and failed. It’s a nice parallel to Rick, and how he felt as the leader after something catastrophic happened to to the group. Given that he had no positive influence growing up, I wonder if that isn’t just a coincidence, and Daryl had finally found a role model in Rick all this time.

    Beth’s character found a nice little spot in this episode. Her speech about being a survivor and there being a reason why she’s here hit it. She represents the hope that humanity needs to come out of this (which means she’ll probably die soon, muahahaha).True, she’s spent the entire series up to now either suicidal or in extreme denial. But, when your group includes a kid that represents innocence lost and another that’s an aspiring serial killer, the bar’s kinda low.

    The one thing that did concern me about tonight’s episode is that they didn’t wait until morning to burn the house down. That’s moonshine for ya. Now, we have a drunk Daryl and Beth wandering around the woods in the dark, near a big burning walker signal.

  27. Crimsonlee March 2, 2014 at 8:28 pm - Reply

    To be honest this wasn’t my favorite episode. Too much one on one with Beth and Daryl. The drinking game with them was pretty cool tho.

  28. Chris Bigger March 2, 2014 at 8:30 pm - Reply

    There is soooooo many other moonshine drinking games they could have played

  29. David Sopko March 2, 2014 at 8:35 pm - Reply

    It was not that great an episode for me. There were a few good bits in it, but
    the overall narrative went nowhere. They are no closed to anyone or
    anything than they were at the opening shot of the episode. I can like
    episodes that are heavy on talking if they deliver the goods…this one
    just felt empty for 55 minutes of the hour.

  30. Dani March 2, 2014 at 8:38 pm - Reply

    Love the show and the comics. I do, I adore them but this episode is on the bottom of my list. Character development is important, I get that but this one didn’t impress me. I feel like it could have been half an episode and still filled us in on what their characters are going through. What I found interesting was the whole rich girl/poor boy was mirrored in the country club/trailer and how he was more comfortable in his own environment. In the end they find common ground which draws them closer. I might have to watch it again to see if it will change my mind, but I doubt I will.

  31. Daniel Boyer March 2, 2014 at 8:41 pm - Reply

    One of the best episodes in the history of this series…

    Questions were answered about Daryl…the rumors of him being a cop, secret agent and all the other stuff…was put to rest…

    It was revealed, Daryl was nothing more, nothing less…than a red neck…living a red neck life before zombies took over the world…and people love the character because he keeps it real…

    I like Beth searching out her drink…that is a woman looking for reasons to live…not reasons to die…I think we all can relate to that…

    The Country Club scene was awesome…if someone ever makes a trivia game…this episode is loaded with trivia questions and answers…what was printed on the spoon Beth picked up…what was the name of the country club…how many people hung themselves…that did Beth kill a zombie with (looked like a wine bottle)…what was the only drink available (peach…)…just lotsa fun little facts in there…

    The episode finished with closure…for both Beth and Daryl…so it is an episode with purpose…not just random happenings…

    I rate this episode a perfect 10…

  32. Cliff Moore March 2, 2014 at 8:44 pm - Reply

    A belly full of snake and a jar of shine.. what’s to hate about that?

  33. Cliff Moore March 2, 2014 at 8:47 pm - Reply

    A belly full of snake and a jar of shine… nothing to hate about that. They even had a bonfire. Beth’s first redneck camping trip is what this episode was

  34. Bam Bam Bigelow March 2, 2014 at 8:48 pm - Reply

    It definitely wasn’t one of their finer episodes. We got to get a deeper look into Daryl’s past and that’s always something that interests me. It just seems to me though that this was basically a filler episode. Everything that transpired could have been done in 25-30 minutes. This show has way too many vital characters to spend an entire episode on only two of them. I like the idea of uncovering characters’ backstories but this was just drawn out for far too long. Daryl reaching his breaking point while being an angry drunk was certainly a powerful moment (phenomenal acting!!) but this episode overall just really left me wanting MORE.

  35. Dylan Willey March 2, 2014 at 9:04 pm - Reply

    The first thing I thought of when I saw this part…

  36. Leah March 2, 2014 at 9:05 pm - Reply

    I was moved to see such a deep emotional outbreak for Daryl because he is normally a man of silent suffering, but in this episode we get to see his heart and his fears and it was beautiful. I also love how we get to see Beth become an adult in her own way even though that way still has childish roots… She’s growing up. I think the most powerful part of this episode is watching the two of them grow emotionally as individuals but doing so as a team. The burning house image is so powerful and in-your-face that it’s endearing. Everything about this episode was amazing. I think that this is a jumping point that could lead these two people anywhere because it just opened the world to them both, a world free of the past. Daryl is not just a bad ass, but a great man with a lot of unresolved guilt and emotion.

  37. cdmartin84 March 2, 2014 at 9:21 pm - Reply

    I love the walking dead and every episode so far. I love the comics but the tv show more mainly because I relate to Daryl on a very personal level. This is by far my favorite episode of the walking dead ever, i’ve been waiting for this episode for a long time and kind of knew an episode like this was coming for a long time.
    They pulled it off so well to! The episode was deep and Daryl may have seemed like a dick but he made a lot of really good points that more people should pay attention to. Being alone makes you stronger, not relying on anyone makes you stronger. So many people these days can’t stand being alone and that makes them weak.

  38. younowhoo1 . March 2, 2014 at 9:28 pm - Reply
  39. Brandon L. Szeto March 2, 2014 at 9:34 pm - Reply

    Did Beth eat that ladybug? #happydrunk

  40. Paula Asher Hodges March 2, 2014 at 10:04 pm - Reply

    Everybody needs somebody. They had to get some feelings out of the way. Hell, for all they know they could be the last people on Earth. But you should have at least one more story line to mix it up a bit. But I still loved it.

  41. Bryce Kopp March 2, 2014 at 10:05 pm - Reply

    Let me start out by saying that this is becoming my favorite season of The Walking Dead, and tonight’s episode just got me even more pumped up! I’m like a lot of people where I love rain, so in the first part of the episode where Beth and Daryl hide in the trunk of the car while it was raining and storming and all the walkers are outside. That part honestly made me feel a bit claustrophobic and just everything about that part was super intense to me. I was in awe because Daryl, being a tracker/hunter, showed off the patience of being a hunter while they were waiting for the walkers to pass them buy, Beth and Daryl were probably just dying to get out of there so they could find a halfway decent place to rest, from the looks of it they got no sleep. I loved when they went into the country club because to me it just goes to show that anybody and everybody is affected by this Walker apocalypse rich, old, young you name it. We got to see something that we haven’t seen too many times on the show and that was people who had taken their own life and turned whilst they were still hanging from the noses that they took their life with. Moving on, we got a good snipet of action along with some good scares. When they got to the rich bitch part and Beth wanted to cover her up, I was like way to honor the dead. The old phrase no matter how rich you are or how poor you are you are buried the same idea came to mind.

  42. Bridget Miyamoto March 2, 2014 at 10:22 pm - Reply

    Absolutely love the fact that Darryl and Beth had no intention of surviving this episode. Every single aspect of the episode was them doing what felt good and not worrying about just going through the motions of survival. Sometimes you just need to get drunk…break shit…burn down an old house that reminds you of your shitty childhood…and have an emotional breakdown. Why not during the zombie apocolypse?

  43. PRNNT March 2, 2014 at 10:48 pm - Reply

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  44. SlipS March 2, 2014 at 10:49 pm - Reply

    Very well written and directed episode but wasnt worth the week long wait imo, this episode was a little too prolonged to only get a few points across. This episode will have more meaning to me if Beth and Daryl are the last to be reunited with the group.

    • Gregarious Raptopoulos March 3, 2014 at 5:19 pm - Reply

      I have a feeling that’s probably what’s going to happen. The rest of the groups are all headed to Terminus, which looks like an obvious setup for some sort of trap. I’m thinking it’s probably the hunters, but much larger scale than in the comics. Daryl feels like he could have done something to save the prison, so he ends up saving some survivors from Terminus. Possible setup for Daryl’s death where he goes out “doing something”, which may end up giving this drawn out episode some meaning in the larger picture of the story.

  45. Nick Daniels March 2, 2014 at 11:18 pm - Reply

    Greatest part of the show: Daryl breaking down and taking blame for the fall of the prison.
    Worst part of the show: Beth’s quest for a drink. If she’s so “hopeful” that the others are out there, find them first, then get a drink.

  46. Jason C March 2, 2014 at 11:40 pm - Reply

    I see some complaints about the episodes not having enough action and being too drawn out, but I think it is a refreshing change up from all of the action that happened at the prison. It’s nice to take a little breather and have some character development to strengthen later events/episodes/seasons/etc. Lastly, Beth has really grown to be one of my favorite female characters (just behind Michonne). especially since the final prison episodes. It seems like her character has more potential for important roles in the future if the writers can pull some things together.

    I haven’t read any of the comics, so take my opinion for what it is worth.

    • Bastet March 3, 2014 at 6:57 am - Reply

      You get tiny bits & pieces of characterization throughout the comics while the action continues to move the story forward, and some things don’t have to be played out, you can infer by their actions.
      Nothing wrong with anybody’s opinion who hasn’t read the comics…we are talking about the show, so it’s all good!

  47. Elliot Gray Van Orman March 2, 2014 at 11:40 pm - Reply

    Great show tonight! Lots of character development. It was needed. Can’t wait for next Sunday! 🙂

  48. Brian March 2, 2014 at 11:55 pm - Reply

    I thought that this episode was very realistic in regards to showing how people deal with loss and grief. Daryl shut down like never before, void of hope almost, Beth trying to motivate and stay strong, but she too finally broke down and just wanted to get lost in her quest for liquor, even if it just took her mind off her grief for a few hours. Personally I have loved the change of pace on the backside of season 4. Lots of very intimate character development and exploring how all the characters are dealing with being scattered into the wind like never before following huge personal losses at the prison. All the characters that have survived the prison are continuing to grow independently and as a group, they are getting tougher both physically and mentally. Adversity builds character and this bunch is chalk full of character. Moonshine, 7 iron bludgeoning’s, history of Daryl, Beths encouragement of debauchery, burning shit down and throwing the middle finger to your demons, great episode.

  49. Pablo Martínez Dutra March 3, 2014 at 12:40 am - Reply

    I loved this episode. It was about the past, the growing of everyone in this mean world. This episode proved that this apocalypse was a truly challenge for those who have already lived in a hell.

    Norman Reedus’ acting was outstanding. I almost cried when he broke to tears. Not because it was a dramatic scene, but because he’s the most misunderstood and afflicted character of all and it’s very difficult to have the expectations from everyone to be the tough guy when you always tried to survive by yourself. Those moments when he was trying to literally destroy all those things that belong to a world that he never had, richness and confortable life, was amazing to see.
    I really love this kind of episodes, when Kirkman & Co. explores the deepest aspects of humanity, just with a little story of survival instinct.

  50. april March 3, 2014 at 3:09 am - Reply

    so boring. we already knew daryl and beth’s story…just boring excuse to show more daryl. remember how heroes started out as an awesome show but then they ruined by listening to the fans saying don’t kill the people we love? yeah that is how this looks

    • Chris Bigger March 3, 2014 at 3:25 pm - Reply
    • GeorgeFromDTown March 4, 2014 at 1:35 pm - Reply

      April, terrible comment! Daryl has been around since the 2nd episode, what show are you watching! Your telling me hes been apart of 46 episodes now and they should of killed him off a long time ago! Re-think what you just said, if a character is a large reason for the shows success why would you not want him to stay around. Now, Daryl will eventually have to die, that is just how it is going to be, BUT that will not happen until the shows success starts to decline, or we get to season 6 then they will start looking for ways to get the ratings back by killing off big characters. This show is the biggest thing on TV right now, your tell me you know more then them? HA!

  51. Shayna Rendenna March 3, 2014 at 3:15 am - Reply

    What a question there is never a bad episode of the walking dead. I enjoyed it just missed the other characters is all. It was great seeing Daryl come back to life. Well done episode by both Emily and norman! I cried with Daryl! Great moment. He loves these people and really has never had a family unit as the group has turned into

  52. Mrs. TLL Galban March 3, 2014 at 4:06 am - Reply

    Props question. My geek friends think that the skinned snake was an eel not a snake. Which was it

  53. Heather Doss March 3, 2014 at 4:41 am - Reply

    I Loved this episode. When Daryl got mad and started going off, it reminded me of season 1 Daryl. Nice seeing the original badass again. Also, glad to see Beth grow up a bit. They have both changed so much since their characters first appeared. Daryl needs a little moonshine more often ♥

  54. Steven Thor Gleason March 3, 2014 at 4:42 am - Reply

    I like the idea of uncovering some of the backstories but this was drawn out for too long. The majority of the message could have been settled in 10-15 minutes. As a fan of the show and comic, I wished for a little more this half of the season. We only get 16 episodes a year and that should encourage writers to cut to the chase a little quicker. I’m not saying anyone did a bad job with this episode other than it should have had more of the main story line and pushing/moving forward. And it’s almost as if they are setting Daryl up to either die or never reconnect with the other members. Could he be moving to the Walking Dead spinoff show? He is shooting a movie this summer with Kirkman. Maybe he is on the chopping block. Guess we will find out soon enough. Unless each episode has as little going on as this one did. 😀

  55. John March 3, 2014 at 5:33 am - Reply

    I actually really liked this episode. Even if Daryl was kinda just a bum before the apocalypse; he was probably one badass bum. I guess Beth was just trying to forget and cope with the losses from the prison with keeping her mind off of it with trying to get alcohol. I felt really bad for Daryl this episode though. I guess all the loss and pain can even get through to a badass like him. I think they both had a little too much moonshine though. When they wake up in the morning they’re gonna both think, “What the hell did I do last night?”

  56. Josh March 3, 2014 at 5:45 am - Reply

    You say this episode was boring? You say it didn’t give us any new information? Why don’t you watch it again…and then thank it. Episodes like this (no one died?…wtf!) are just as important to the strength of the show as the “shoot ’em up, shoot ’em up, pow, pow” episodes. You have to have quiet, personal moments in order to appreciate the story when shit hits the fan….and in order to care about the characters when they get into trouble…..otherwise, we could be getting the same feeling from Saw XVII. I, for one, was reminded why I like the Daryl character. I also never really cared if Beth bit the big one, and I expected it in this episode. Now, I have a new respect and liking for the character. Thanks to the Walking Dead crew for giving us people to root for…not just hot, zombie meals.

    • Gregarious Raptopoulos March 3, 2014 at 11:52 am - Reply

      Its not that the episode was boring, its that, with few precious episodes left, they spent the whole episode telling a story that could have been effectively told in 15-20 minutes. This episode felt out of place and the plot stood “still”. Character development episodes are great, but half of the episode felt like filler. The actual character development moments were really good, but these are characters that we essentially already know about. Who didn’t already suspect Daryl was an abused redneck wandering through life with his pos older brother? Its been established and it shouldn’t take 45 minutes for him to just say so. I kept wondering when the plot development part was going to happen, but it never did.

      • Itaruga March 4, 2014 at 9:35 am - Reply

        I am in agreement with Gregarious. They wasted this episode. Could have done aq much better job, i know they can. Rick, Carl, Michonne, Maggie, Glenn, they all have had great episodes so far, OH and Tyrese, Judith, and Psycho girl! This one in particular has been the weakest so far.

        • George March 4, 2014 at 1:25 pm - Reply

          I would have to disagree, I felt the episode was one of the better of the second half. I felt the way Beth feels about her dad, loosing mine kind of helps that but I also felt the way Darryl does about leaving behind his past, why did I feel that way. Because the characters and the writing was beautiful! They did a superb job and when Darryl broke down for the second time in this show, you felt it with him. All of this nonsense like it has to be action packed and it has to be riddled with death and carnage is CRAP. All of you TWD haters can go find another show. TWD has been true to this character closeness since the beginning. The first episode was nothing but Rick, Morgan and his boy. Come on people they have not deviated so our taste should not to far anyway! Great Episode!

          • Gregarious Raptopoulos March 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm

            There’s just something about this episode that people either love or they hate. My girlfriend absolutely loved it. I liked select moments from the episode and the bits of character development. However, as I’ve mentioned before, it just felt like they wasted a good 20 minutes with filler nonsense. The first 10 minutes could be cut out entirely, as well as several minutes here and there throughout the entire episode. I really disliked that there was absolutely no plot development, contrary to all the other episodes in 4.2, which is why I thought it felt out of place. I usually watch each episode 3-4 times throughout the week, but I don’t even have the desire to watch this one again. I love character development episodes with less action. I really don’t think a lack of action is why people didn’t like this episode.

  57. allison martin March 3, 2014 at 5:58 am - Reply

    Hey I loved the fact that Daryl talked about his past life. I also love Norman! I know I probably wont get the cardboard cut out, but I would be really happy if I dis like REALLY happy. I know mines not the most instering but I figured I might as well try. Oh and I♥ norman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  58. Bastet March 3, 2014 at 6:44 am - Reply

    Beth goes from: “We all got jobs to do. You don’t know that [they’re all dead]. We should do something! You can track.” To: “I never had a drink. I’m going to get a drink.”
    Daryl & Beth set out on a mission…to find Beth her 1st drink…after Daryl damn near threw Bob off a building because of putting people’s lives in more jeopardy over a bottle.
    Daryl loots. And loots. Arrows are going bad, but he’s picking up money & jewelry.
    They’ve been camping out in the woods but it’s only when moonshine comes to mind that Daryl remembers a cabin nearby that he & Michonne discovered earlier, obviously devoid of walkers.
    Over a drinking game, it’s revealed Daryl’s a redneck bum….wow; Beth’s innocent, ready to break out now that Dad’s dead…wow.
    Daryl throws a fit & does something to Beth that matches Mika’s age.
    A house reminiscent of a past BEFORE the apocalypse is burned down… at night. And the highlight of the moment is a single finger salute.

    A 15 min shot of this melodrama, mixed with some purposeful action, a split to other characters, and/or a death at the end (which is really what would have blown it away) would have made this a good episode. My opinion.

  59. cj March 3, 2014 at 6:55 am - Reply

    Extremely boring, could have done this in a half hour, way too long on Daryl and Beth, this could be your last season for me if this keeps up. CJ

  60. Corey Webster March 3, 2014 at 7:05 am - Reply

    Yuck, yuck, yuck! Worst episode of an otherwise good season! The end with them both flipping off the burning cabin WAS THE WORST!!! So fucking corny!! And, even worse, the song at the end made it even cornier!! Like twisting the blade or something. I thought I was watching a slow, draggy Season 2 episode last night. Shoulda had all the Beth/Darryl stuff condensed into 15 minutes and then caught up with other plotlines during the remaining time of the episode. Godammit, I hope next week is better!

    P.S. The Talking Dead with that comedian last night was hi-larious, though! Please invite him back! I laughed out loud when he made the comment about Tyreese wandering around with three white kids. Very funny guy.

  61. junglecrazd1 March 3, 2014 at 7:16 am - Reply

    finally Daryl proves his manhood without the crossbow. I finally respect him as a character. I’m just wondering when he hooks up with Beth . . .

    Also, don’t you think Bombtrack would have been a better song to the house burning? #justsayin

    “Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn”

  62. Gregarious Raptopoulos March 3, 2014 at 8:23 am - Reply

    The problem with this episode is that it felt so out of place and it took 45 minutes to tell a 15 minute story. All the other episodes in season 4.2 felt like they were all interconnected and this one just didn’t. TWD was doing something special by weaving the stories of the splinted groups together. This episode didnt feel like that and it didn’t move the plot at all. The character development was weak. The big reveal was that Daryl was an abused redneck drifting through life with his older brother, which is exactly who everyone already thought he was. The episode felt like a one shot issue of a comic book that is between arcs and doesnt have anything to do with the actual story arc.. The episode itself was decent, but it felt more like something out of season 2.

    • Corey Webster March 3, 2014 at 10:26 am - Reply

      Well put! I assumed Darryl was a redneck of sorts before the apocalypse and not a secret CIA agent or something intriguing like others have speculated. So him saying that in the episode was rather anti-climactic, kind of like “Oh, OK…next!”

  63. Rachael Kirk March 3, 2014 at 8:27 am - Reply

    Everyone else is looking for either each other or other people. Michonne, who’s not the “tracker” managed to find Rick and Carl. Maggie is looking for Glenn, Glenn punches Abraham in the face for suggesting Maggie is dead, and continues looking for her. Tyreese, Carol and the kids, as well as Rick, Michonne and Carl find the signs for Terminus and are most likely headed there. And what are Daryl and Beth doing? Looking for booze, getting drunk, burning a house, and now wandering around drunk at night in a zombie apocalypse. Neither of them were productive members of society before the world went to shit, and they are even more useless now. Hershel’s fear was that people would lose hope, and to me it looks like these two have. That’s what I got out of this episode.

    • Ricardo Colombo March 3, 2014 at 9:17 am - Reply

      I think the time line is skewed because of having to cover so many groups. Daryl and Beth were looking for others right after the attack, and were a few hours away from running into Carol and Tyreese. Beth being the more insistent searcher back then makes more sense now that we know Daryl was dealing with the personal guilt of not doing enough to hunt down the Governor.

      But, if you look at the story lines concurrently, and place this at right about the same time that Rick and Carl are fending for themselves while Rick heals, and Michonne going through her walk off with the walkers moment, it makes more sense that they were all coping with an extremely traumatic event.

      Maggie and Glenn really are the only ones that had true focus on finding the others. Carol did as well, to an extent. But, it’s hard to tell at this point if she was only coming after the girls, or didn’t see the others head off from her vantage of the fight.

  64. lsglickman March 3, 2014 at 11:22 am - Reply

    I’m with team boring – that was torture to sit through.

  65. Sarah March 3, 2014 at 11:43 am - Reply

    Loved this episode. LOVED IT. They took the 2 characters we know the least about, put them together, and gave us the whole episode with them, which is more indulgent than the series has been with any other characters in 4 seasons! I don’t think Daryl’s demons are at rest, but I think he knows he doesn’t have to shoulder them all on his own. The current dynamic between Daryl and Beth is like brother and sister… intimacy, dependency, irritation, concern, trust. You know how it is with your siblings – you get easily irritated, but you’ve got their back and they have yours. I don’t think Daryl or Beth would open up to anyone else in the group in the same way as they have opened up to each other. I love the symbiosis of their relationship, like the first segment where they didn’t talk, they just survived. Next for them, I hope they meet up with someone else from the group, regardless of who it is… I think they need that, like Beth said, they need a place to just ‘be’, rather than survive. Of course, it would be most interesting if they ran into Carol and Tyreese first!!! 😀

    • Gregarious Raptopoulos March 3, 2014 at 3:12 pm - Reply

      Disagree. These are two characters we already know a lot about relative to other characters in Twd. We went in knowing the Daryl was a reneck that grew up in abusive home with a pos older brother who bossed him around. We went in knowing Beth was an inexperienced farm girl. We came out of this episode with nearly the exact same knowledge we went in with. Compare that to characters like Glenn, Tyreese, Sasha, Bob. What do we really know about these characters besides one of them was a pizza delivery driver? Two of those characters I mentioned are huge fan favorites from the comic.

  66. OShika March 3, 2014 at 11:45 am - Reply

    Great episode! Daryl hasn’t had a good cry since Merle or even a chance to vent. He wants to save everyone and he can’t. I also think he doesn’t see Beth as someone to open up to because she’s young and inexperienced in life’s hardship before the z-apocalypse.

  67. Andrew March 3, 2014 at 11:58 am - Reply

    EDIT: Added a “tl;dr” at the bottom of my post in case people don’t wanna read my (let’s call it an) essay.

    Now, back when the discussion post for the Season 4 premiere was put up, people were asked what we thought Daryl did before the apocalypse and I said a “street pharmacist”. It was revealed in “Still” that.. he didn’t really do anything. He just followed Merle around so maybe Daryl didn’t do that, but I’d say it’s probably a safe bet that Merle did. I wasn’t too far off, right? Anyway, moving on to the episode.

    Overall, I liked it. A bunch of the cast and crew have said that this back half of Season 4 feels like an entirely new season and I couldn’t agree more. I feel like this is the first half of a new season because everything has changed so much and we’ve already had so many amazing things happen within these last 4 episodes since the show’s returned. Every episode’s been great so far.

    So really though, diving into the ep this time. Some people were upset with the fact that most of this episode was Daryl and Beth going on this quest to get Beth some alcohol. “Why go through all of that for a drink?” and “seriously? that’s what this episode is about?” but it wasn’t.. just them going off in search for a drink. When you’ve gone through something traumatic and life-changing, sometimes the only way someone knows how to deal with that is by getting a drink to numb the pain. Sometimes you’ll do anything – go to any lengths – just to take your mind off something because it drives you insane and I’m sure everyone’s at least known someone who has turned to alcohol to help them cope with something.. especially when it’s something serious like losing a parent. Daryl wouldn’t really know what it’s like to lose a real parent, a real mom or dad since it seems like they weren’t really there for him but he definitely knows what it’s like to lose family since he lost Merle and the prison group. They were his family. Daryl knows what it’s like to just wanna drink your problems away and forget about everything for a moment and he was able to do that in the old world but in this new one, that’s a privilege you have to be lucky to experience so he’s like “alright, yeah, let’s go.. I’ll help you get a drink” and I mean, it kinda seems like Daryl needed that drink a little more than Beth, right? Not only is it one thing after another but it’s multiple things at once
    and sometimes when it’s that way with us, we lose our minds and all we
    wanna do is just drink.. you don’t get that promotion you were hoping
    for, you got fired, maybe something of yours was stolen, an order you
    placed got screwed up.. OH or how about this one: financial problems.
    Right? Everyone knows how financial problems be, I feel ya. Very annoy.
    Much hard. Such problem. Those are things that happen in our world today
    that when they happen, we just wanna throw our arms up and say “I’m
    done.. I’m done with today, I just want it to be over” but those aren’t
    things they have to worry about.. what they have to worry about is so much worse. Every single day for them is another day that they have to fight just to stay alive. They have to fight just so they can have something to eat, let alone drink. Imagine if the thing you had to fight for was a half-bottle of Mountain Dew that’s been sitting out in the 95 degree Georgia sunlight for the last three weeks that’s probably already had a couple different set of lips on it. SO GROSS, RIGHT? GOD, THAT’D BE THE WORST. I can’t imagine living in a world like that.. where THAT is one of the blessings. I can definitely see and understand why Beth would go to any length to have a drink. I’m not a drinker but if I were in their situation, I’m pretty sure I could be convinced easily.

    Has Daryl put his demons to rest? …I’m not really sure. Um.. I mean, he got to vent and he got a lot of things out of his system – a lot of things that were kept inside for so long are finally out in the open now. But.. I mean, the guy’s been through a lot. Even though he didn’t do much before the apocalypse, he was still abused by his parents and it seems like Merle certainly wasn’t any help unless it was someone else going after Daryl. Then with this world that they live in.. everything he’s gone through? ..I don’t think he’s put his demons to rest. I think he feels better about things and I think he feels a little better now that he has someone to confide in but I wouldn’t say his demons are put to rest… not yet.

    Speaking of having someone to confide in and having a friend in Beth, what’s their dynamic? I don’t think it’s anything romantic. We all have a friend that we’re super close to, that we can tell anything to, that we can be our true selves around and that understands us and would do anything for us (and vice versa) but at the same time, even though they mean the world to us and we have a special connection with them that we don’t have with anybody else, it’s not somebody that we’d wanna mack it with, y’know? Sometimes that friend happens to be of the opposite gender but that doesn’t mean it goes anywhere. Sometimes it does but not always. I know that age isn’t really an issue in the apocalypse – you gotta take what you can get but I think Daryl’s more of a big brother figure to Beth than a lover. I just think they’re way closer now than they were before since they got the opportunity to crawl around in the other’s head and learn a little more about each other. Not only do they have a better understanding of each other but we – as the viewers – have a better understanding of the two of them. I’m really glad we’ve gotten to have so much character development in this back half of Season 4 because I feel like it’s something we’ve needed for a while now. I really like getting to understand the characters better and to learn more about them. Yeah, it’ll make it more emotional when they die but isn’t that the whole point? People complain when people come on the show and they’re red-shirts and they’re like “oh.. well that person died, whatever”. I’d much rather have these people develop and evolve as characters and survivors. It really gives everyone on the show a purpose and I think this new dynamic duo of Beth and Daryl.. most people probably see it as Daryl and this blonde girl that can’t do anything but as Beth said, she’s a survivor.. just like everyone else. Maybe she isn’t as strong as Maggie or Michonne and maybe she can’t do the things Carol can do.. but she’s still a survivor just like everyone else. I think Beth and Daryl – as a duo – are stronger than most people give them credit for and I can’t wait to see where they go from here.

    So.. wondering where they go from here gives us a smooth transition into “what happens next?” ..that’s a good question. What does happen next? We don’t have many episodes left. Only, what, 4? I think there’s gonna be a lot more questions than answers but I think there’s supposed to be. Leading into Season 5, we’re gonna have a lot of things we have to cover because I’m not sure everyone in the group is gonna be together again by the end of this season. I’m not sure that everyone’s gonna live to see the end of the season. Regardless, there’s been a lot of developments that haven’t been dealt with. Judith is alive. Carol’s back and well. Tyreese STILL doesn’t know that Carol killed Karen and David. Rick and Carl still think Judith is dead. Daryl’s convinced himself that nobody else in the group is alive. Glenn and Maggie are still searching for each other. God only knows where things are gonna go with Lizzie. The girl is literally insane. Not sure how everyone’s gonna react when they find out Tara’s apart of the group now given she was apart of the group that attacked the prison and not only that, but there’s also Abraham’s Army (who I’m SO happy to see in the show, btw. Abraham’s one of my favorites in the comic and Cudlitz has done an amazing job so far bringing him to life on screen.. there’s really no better person for the role.. VERY happy with that casting as well as McDermitt as Eugene and Serratos as Rosita.. they look identical to their comic counterparts). Eugene claims to know what caused the outbreak (should make for a very interesting situation.. you know what I mean if you’ve read the comics) and they’re on their way to Washington so they have a journey of their own to go on. But since they’re been sidetracked because of their truck breaking down, what’s next for them? I know they’re going off with Glenn and Tara but.. what if Glenn and Tara regroup with some of our favorite survivors? Where does that leave Abraham and his crew? So, with all of that still out in the open and the things that are still to come, I literally have no idea – not even the slightest idea – as to what is going to happen in these last 4 episodes. I can’t even begin to guess.. but what I do know is that this entire season has been one heck of a ride and Season 4 is definitely the show’s best season and I can’t wait to see where it goes from here. I’m strapped in and go on the crazy ride to see where the rest of Season 4 takes us.

    tl;dr – Stuff, bro.

  68. Dan Matthews March 3, 2014 at 1:06 pm - Reply

    OK, little question: At the very beginning of the episode, as the camera pans down, two (maybe three) figures walk across the road. The are too quick to be walkers. Are they part of the group (since the shows this season are not going in chronological order?) A tease for something else? (Forgive the quality of the screen shot.)

  69. Yamila Pan March 3, 2014 at 3:43 pm - Reply

    It was just an amazing episode.. but I need more! So I believe kirkman’s ideas work, that’s what we are supposed to feel, anxiety, necessity for more.. well done!!

  70. mallory March 3, 2014 at 4:03 pm - Reply

    I think that Daryl has put most of his childhood behind him but I don’t think he will let it all go it made him who he is the strong man we all love. As for his and beth’s relationship I think the only thing that will happen is that Daryl will look at her as a strong women and not a pampered young girl with silly wishes. I think they will find carol seeing as Daryl took the map from the country club.

  71. Mark Jackson March 3, 2014 at 5:15 pm - Reply

    I’m thinking about the last time we saw Beth and Daryl and Beth found a small shoe by the walkers feasting on flesh, and when she broke down crying. Maybe it was Lizzy or Mikah’s shoe, but the only thing she knew almost for sure was that someone very young was most likely dead. Beth never got to experience the things a typical teenager would have in the normal world, and the quest to have her first drink wasn’t just about her; she wanted to have it for the sake of all the other girls her age or younger who also would never get to experience what they would have had the world not gone to hell. In season 2 when Beth was in shock and suicidal, Maggie tells the story of coming home with birth control pills and Beth freaking out about it. So not only does Beth not get to have that typical teenage experience but she had to be on the outside looking in while her sister had it.
    With everything they’ve been through, the wanting a drink, the burning the building, and the multiple middle fingers all say to me she’s full of emotions with everything they’ve been through, and she sees in Daryl’s eyes that he’s holding back those same emotions. When she gets him to help her burn the house down and even flip it off at the end, it’s a kind of personal victory for Beth, because as we saw, Daryl was shutting down much like Michonne was in episode 409. She wanted to get him to forgive himself, and she did.

  72. Austin Fancyadventure Anderson March 3, 2014 at 5:29 pm - Reply

    Only Beth and Daryl can prevent forest fires…

  73. Anthony Ripley March 3, 2014 at 9:06 pm - Reply

    I thought It was a pretty well done episode. I especially liked how you guys released a poll for how people would react if Daryl died Right before hand and then Didnt kill him haha

  74. Matt D. Mako March 4, 2014 at 3:42 am - Reply

    OK so the fire was cathartic, but the moonshine, and especially the still are resources. Fuel is something that is hard to come by, but the potential to be running from an uncontrolled forest fire that draws walkers in from all directions like moths to a flame make it even worse.

  75. Ann G March 4, 2014 at 4:46 am - Reply

    The episode was fantastic! Great incite to the characters. I think Daryl finally sees the fact he is someone, that he is better than he was. Beth also showed the strength that she has inside that wasnt shown in other episodes. I believe this has brought Daryl and Beth closer than they ever were. Whether or not they become romantically involved, I think they will have a greater bond now.

  76. Mrs. TLL Galban March 4, 2014 at 5:16 am - Reply

    Which worry, about the picture. I thought that’s where you put your avatar pic. He is bad. I will delete

  77. BGAK42 March 4, 2014 at 8:22 am - Reply

    I thought this episode was really great, I was really wanting more then a just “Beth and Daryl” episode before it started because I wanted to find out what was happening with the others. However I am really glad that they did this episode, I think that both characters really needed this level of development.

  78. Itaruga March 4, 2014 at 9:32 am - Reply

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, good or bad. And in my opinion, the episode actually was kinda boring..I expected a bit more. And not just mindless action, but more depth. Rick and Carl’s episode blew this one away. And I’m a die hard fan, i am not one of those who bash this show every week. Too much cringe in this episode lol. Really, am starting to worry about the writers currently employed….Can I do a better job? No, I’m not a writer, that’s why it’s not my job. But I can certainly critique. Anyhow, opportunity missed, I am looking forward to seeing Rick, and yes, even Carl again! hehe.

  79. Matthew Heasley March 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm - Reply

    This episode represents change to me. Beth is changing and so is Daryl. I really enjoyed this episode. We also find out a bit more about who Daryl really is. I feel like all the characters are forced to change but this episode showed us the process of these two characters changing. Beth has lost her whole family and she wants to have a drink because she never had one before. Her father wouldn’t allow her to drink and she didn’t do it out of respect for him. Now that Hershal is dead she wants to experience how it feels to have a drink before she dies. Daryl never shows emotion and is usually very calm, even in crazy situations. In this episode we some him break down emotionally and reveal some of his true feelings. I grew up in a little white trash town myself and had an alcoholic father. I know the feeling of wanting to escape that life but the memories of my childhood will be with me forever. I think Daryl feels the same way and in this episode is shows him getting past those feelings. He also revealed he has never left Georgia before and Beth picks up a spoon that has Washington D.C. marked on it. Maybe a little foreshadowing?

  80. braincooksidea March 4, 2014 at 1:49 pm - Reply

    I thought the hanging people and the “rich bitch” were due to a class war between the staff and the members?

    • Gregarious Raptopoulos March 4, 2014 at 4:04 pm - Reply

      Something like that. It could have been a group of bandits, but since there were stacks of corpses its safe to assume they were murdered by head wound. My interpretion was that the hanging people did not commit suicide.

  81. Issy March 5, 2014 at 3:58 pm - Reply

    Daryl and Beth are exploring the unkown after the prison. Hoorah for anthropology!

  82. JRoshon94 March 6, 2014 at 2:34 am - Reply

    I personally thought this was the best episode for Daryl after the prison Daryl kinda shut down and I was very interested to know more about him and how he was internally handling the losses they experienced. When a badass like Daryl Dixon has a moment like that it truly adds a sense of reality to the situation. It showed that even the strongest man has a breaking point and that this affect them as well. And much praise to Norman Reedus for an incredible performance. When I watched the episode I sat they teary eyed thinking “Oh Daryl”. I just wanted to hug him in that moment. #Bestshowever #Norman”DarylDixon”Reedus4Ever.

  83. Jimbo Jones March 6, 2014 at 3:46 am - Reply

    I really liked the episode, I thought that it had some very realistic themes in it and not every episode needs to be run run zombies kill kill!! That would be boring to me anyway.
    I loved watching Darryl vent on that zombie with the golf club, and I could definitely relate to his embarrassment of the fact that he came from a place like that, then that causing him to explode at Beth when she carelessly insinuated that she thought that it was likely he had been in jail. I also think that the scene where Beth hugged him was handled with great dignity, it expressed a closeness without bringing overt sexuality into it by having Beth hug him from behind. Very clever. The drinking of moonshine by a virgin drinker was perhaps not realistic but I think that the studio would have had issues with presenting a young girl throwing up like a jackhammer in prime time. I thought that there was the slightest chance that we may have had a hook up between the two, but alas not on the menu. I think there chemistry is excellent – it is tense, emotional and passionate which really brings the wild card into play. Anything could happen with those sort of emotions and feelings in the air. And sure the middle finger scene at the end made me cringe too, but Beth is young and cheesy – haven’t you ever smiled at the naivety of youth before? I can’t wait to watch Beth evolve into a more rounded woman, all the other females are already set in stone where as she could literally go any which way.
    Replies welcome. 🙂

    • SlipS March 7, 2014 at 8:32 pm - Reply

      Reaaaaallly trying to find out more about Sasha (who in my opinion is outshining the other female characters acting wise, except Danai of course ;D)and Bob. These characters origins are completely foreign to us other than Bob had an alcohol prob and Sasha is Tyrese’s sister. im hoping next episode gets down to that. I felt like fans who have been following this show closely have already known that Daryl was a deadbeat redneck with Merle before all this, but is truly a good hearted person who has always needed/wanted a sense of family in his life, and that Beth was a pretty straight laced teen that didnt get to truly experience her teenage years and was probably scared/talked in to never drinking by Hershel. I really enjoyed that part when Daryl vented all of his frustrations, getting his buttons pushed until Beth mentioned the jail thing that just pushed him over the edge and how it ended with Beth back hugging the mentally defeated and recovering Daryl Dixon. good post :D^^ although i wasnt overly thrilled with the episode 😛

  84. thewalkingdeadfanatic2 March 8, 2014 at 10:36 am - Reply

    What i see going down in
    episode 16 (the finale) is Lizzy ends up getting lost, and a stranger
    with a certain bat he calls luccile (I have a feeling you know where im
    going) befriends her. Than negan tricks lizzie into killing everyone
    once they find them- but something causes lizzy to spare the baby. then,
    perhaps, lizzy will hand over judith to negan, and as it turns out,
    Negan is going to terminus, which we find out is ‘the hilltop.’ Carl and
    rick, and michonne have already found the hilltop, but due to some
    ‘unlucky’ encounters with negan allready, they already know him for the
    moster he is. So, they see him with the baby, and like, all their eyes
    get wide, and the screen cuts out for the season ending.

    just an idea.

  85. strgzer March 9, 2014 at 12:53 pm - Reply

    This episode revealed Beth and Daryl as who they are now with glimpses of who they were before. Beth is a certifiable survivor and Daryl is a man who now knows his true worth. I only wish that when Daryl splatter Beth’s new white cardigan with zombie brains she had said something smartass like ” thanks for ruining my sweater!”

  86. Angi Daniel Hadley-Eurton March 9, 2014 at 6:54 pm - Reply
  87. Harold Payne Sr. March 9, 2014 at 6:55 pm - Reply

    Alive survive where do I enter these words to win?

  88. Quetin Michaelz March 9, 2014 at 8:04 pm - Reply

    Is that the same group that took ricks bed and if so , was that before or after they got daryl

  89. KingMe March 10, 2014 at 11:00 am - Reply

    I’m a little taken back by so much positive feedback. Frankly so far this season I, and many of the people I watch with, are very disappointed thus far. This series used to be about not only the people, circumstances, feelings, scenarios, survival etc., but it provided so much of an action packed adrenaline rush it was almost impossible not to watch. During the break in season 3, I watched the season 1 pilot and was hooked and proceeded to get my entire family hooked. My entire family watched nothing but The Walking Dead, trying to get caught up before season 3 commenced in February that year. Who knew that by the time season 3 started up again, we had already seen the best of the best. If I wanted to watch a drama, I would watch a drama. The intrigue of this series IS:
    human interaction
    Bottom line, what made The Walking Dead so great to at least 20 of the people I know who have become ‘followers’ has most definitely been lacking and almost non existent this season.
    I’m sure there are many out there that disagree and that’s OK. We are all entitled to our opinion and what we want to watch and I understand I don’t have to watch it. No one is forcing me. I just don’t want to give up on it yet. YET. Absolutely LOVED ’24’ and it had a few shaky seasons as well, but I did watch every single episode until the end BECAUSE someone woke up and began writing again. (Thank You!) In any case, I am willing to give it until the end of this season and maybe an episode or two into next season but if the daytime soap opera writing doesn’t stop I will not be watching after that. And I know many who agree. Time will tell, but I sure would hate to give up our Sunday night Walking Dead parties … they are sorta fun.

  90. Kathy Verduzco March 14, 2014 at 9:29 pm - Reply

    I didn’t like the writers having Beth and Daryl together .Beth is too young and annoying, Daryl and Carol have a close connection..As a couple they are awesome…Writers would be smart to take that to the next level…;)

  91. bailey April 2, 2014 at 6:48 pm - Reply

    Well I just want to now where beth is after beaing taken away.

  92. josey johnson April 11, 2014 at 6:02 am - Reply

    im a huge fan of the walking dead I have no problems with it and ever since it came out I wanted to be in the show really bad but im 12 so im probly too young to follow my dream to be an actor

    • Bastet April 11, 2014 at 6:12 am - Reply

      I’d love to be in the show, too. But you’d have a better chance of doing that than I would! Do you know that Chandler Riggs (Carl) was your age when he started acting in The Walking Dead? And this was not his first job! So please don’t think you’re too young! If it is your dream, FOLLOW IT!!!

  93. Terrell Matthews September 1, 2014 at 6:22 am - Reply

    Really I just knew daryl was gonna get some booty

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