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The Walking Dead 116 Discussion

All Out War continues!

Everyone that was worried that All Out War was going to be 11 issues of talking and 1 issue of action, I hope your concerns have been allayed. Not only was this issue action-packed, it had zombies. Like lots of zombies, as Rick pulled some real Governor s#!t.

Negan kicked Gregory to the curb. Unfortunately the curb was a few stories down.

Hilltop stood strong with Rick and the Survivors. F yeah.

And what’s going to happen to Holly? It can’t be good to be on Negan’s bad side. Yeesh.

What did everyone think? The best comment about issue 116 gets a SIGNED copy of 116. Yup, I said it. So comment below.

The war has only just begun.

  1. Elliott November 13, 2013 at 4:15 pm - Reply

    I’m super impressed with what Robert Kirkman has done with this comic series. He’s gone from Rick being afraid of the dead to fighting a WAR against a corrupt psycho and his people as the world slowly begins to rebuild. Pure, amazing, literature.

  2. Omar Terrazas November 13, 2013 at 4:17 pm - Reply

    I thought Rick would have a bad start at war but I was wrong, he had a pretty rad plan after all. Holly’s badassery (or stupidity) was outstanding. Although I can see her becoming one of Negan’s wives.

  3. Brooks Olivier November 13, 2013 at 4:20 pm - Reply

    I’ll be surprised if the double cross has any follow through… That is all.

  4. Matt Coppin November 13, 2013 at 4:22 pm - Reply

    I am very intrigued to see how Negan treats Holly. If he rapes her then it just further associates the character of Negan with that of the Governor. Personally, I think they are two completely different personalities and Negan can think of a million more fucked up things to do to Holly than the Governor ever could.

  5. UTMahoo November 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm - Reply

    Rick’s plan was better than expected. When this was billed as “All Out War” it was no joke. Round 1 to Rick, but I am sure Negan has some tricks up his sleeve. I am curious to see what happens when the reinforcements from the outpost arrive.

  6. Tyler Sexson November 13, 2013 at 4:32 pm - Reply

    Here is a good example of how Rick sometimes (well most of the time) doesn’t let anyone know the full scope of his plans. He didn’t let anyone know he was going to sacrifice himself. It’s a chess game and Rick moved all of his pawns… Which turned out to be a hoard of walkers!

    • James Philbrick Jr. November 13, 2013 at 5:01 pm - Reply

      He also knows that people need to take sacrifices and he doesn’t want to put others in that situation. He also knows that people wouldn’t agree, like Michonne. My question is, why would he sacrifice himself without confronting Carl about it? What about saying his last goodbye to him? Or Andrea? Seems like it was a suicide mission and he know there was a chance he wouldn’t get out alive.

  7. Andrew November 13, 2013 at 4:35 pm - Reply

    War comes with a price. Negan now has a POW. It’s no longer just a battle to neutralize the threat, now; it’s also a rescue operation. I liked the idea of stirring up the walkers and crashing the fence–they can keep Negan’s men busy and hopefully wear them down a little. It’ll make round two a little easier for Rick and the gang.

  8. James Philbrick Jr. November 13, 2013 at 4:56 pm - Reply

    How long do you think Negan will keep Holly alive? I have a feeling he is going to use her to his advantage like The Governor did to Tyreese.

  9. Alex Carson November 13, 2013 at 5:11 pm - Reply

    Negan is actually pretty terrifying. I’m happy that Rick got a great shot in first, but there’ll be hell to pay and I’ll be right there with it.

  10. Rick Grimes November 13, 2013 at 5:24 pm - Reply

    Well that was one of the best issues I have ever read. Rick just keeps getting more and more badass. This is going to be absolutely fucking amazing… Excuse my Negan-esque language. Bring it on, Kirkman!!

  11. Michael J. Scoggins November 13, 2013 at 5:44 pm - Reply

    Wondering what is going to happen next is killing me! I’m hoping we get to see Lucille in action big time in 117. I keep getting annoyed by the fan letters and such where people complain about the few similarities in Negan and the Governor. Negan is miles better than the Governor. He’s not a mindless psycho like the Governor was. His moves and actions are cold, but they are also very calculated.

    Actually, you know, if they just kill Rick and crew off at the end of this angle and refocus the comics around Negan, that’d be just fucking dandy.

    • CantgetenoughTWD November 15, 2013 at 8:39 am - Reply

      I Agree with the first part. The fan letters about the similarities and being repetitive are plain retard but it would ruin the entire comic if they kill Rick off and follow Negan.

  12. Elden Nielson November 13, 2013 at 6:25 pm - Reply

    Gregory fell. Holly answers the bell (and probably, now, won’t be doing so well). Negan promises Hell. Rick knows it’s too soon to tell.

    Kirkman…you’re swell.

  13. Ed Dugan November 13, 2013 at 6:28 pm - Reply

    Great issue. Rick really took a page from the governor’s book by planning to drive the car through the fences. I can’t wait to see what happens the next few issues. I’m taking bets with my friends to see how kirkman breaks or hearts by killing off characters in the book. I’m also interested to see how Carl and Andrea work their way into the war if they do. They don’t seem like the ones to sit back and wait.

  14. Jake Trusheim November 13, 2013 at 6:52 pm - Reply

    I love how Rick has grown throughout the series, and how his past experiences constantly change his philosophy and actions. In the last issue, he mentions that long ago (Issue #17) he created a rule: “You Kill? You Die”. However, soon after he realized that sometimes it is necessary to kill in order to protect yourself and those you love. Now, the story, and civilization, has progressed so much that there is no longer a reason to kill, and he announces that it’s finally time to stick to his rule; “You kill and you die.”

    Similarly, his strategy for attacking The Saviors in this issue is a lesson he learned from the “No Way Out” storyline. He commands his soldiers to keep firing, even after the Savior’s snipers have been killed. Through Negan’s remarks, the reader discovers that Rick is commanding them to simply shatter the windows, drawing a crowd of walkers to The Sanctuary, hundreds strong. And with smashing the gate, he succeeds in creating quite a problem for Negan.

    The continual evolution of these characters, especially of Rick, is what keeps me coming back for more every month (now every other week). Thanks for the great story guys!

  15. mourning wood November 13, 2013 at 6:56 pm - Reply

    Use the dead. Kill the living…

  16. Julian Moorefield November 13, 2013 at 8:48 pm - Reply

    Anyone notice the similarities between Negan and Danny McBride (aka Kenny Powers) since his arrival in the series? Maybe I’m late to the party, but I find it funny that Negan’s personality and speech sound like something Danny would say in one of his films or shows.

  17. TheZildjman November 13, 2013 at 9:07 pm - Reply

    So is Gregory for sure dead? Because I never want to see that guy ever again.

  18. November 14, 2013 at 12:53 am - Reply

    this issue was so strong! the last few issues were al about rick vs negan and when the war begun rick just ussed the one and only thing they have in common the fear and enemy: the walkers… so awesome to see they used the basic threat in this world against Negan and his army

  19. mattjmorrison November 14, 2013 at 4:02 am - Reply

    Great issue! I loved Rick’s strategy, pure genius. I’m a little unsure if taking out one small section of fence is going to be enough, it seems like that would be relatively easy to repair. I’m looking forward to #117 on the 27th!!!

  20. The Wrath of Lucille November 14, 2013 at 11:27 am - Reply

    When i turned the page and saw rick standing there alone..
    It was epic..
    Rick has the respect and is going to lead his army to victory..
    RIP Holly..

  21. Brandon Baehman November 14, 2013 at 2:15 pm - Reply

    I have a strong feeling sooner or later Negan’s followers are going to turn on him and it isn’t going to be pretty.

  22. Michaelangelo Coppa November 14, 2013 at 4:22 pm - Reply

    If I was Holly, I’d want to have died in that car. Now Negan has his hands on her and is going to do some silly things to that poor girl. Boy oh Boy.

  23. CarlforPresident November 14, 2013 at 7:46 pm - Reply

    The image of Rick on the last page is so bad ass…stoic moment.

    Using the dead against Negan is great, catching him unaware is priceless. Really good strategy. PLUS…Andrea and her sniper crew are not in the group that left…so…they must be waiting for walker clean up, and pick off savior time!!!!

    Go Andrea!! Save Holly!!!

  24. Felix Mitchell November 16, 2013 at 10:08 am - Reply

    Holly is so stupid…like Rick said, Negan doesn’t want him dead. He could’ve taken down the fences and left safely. But instad Holy had to kick him in his no-no’s and now she’s screwed. When will they learn…LISTEN TO RICK!

  25. windsurfer757 November 16, 2013 at 11:00 am - Reply

    I haven’t read any issue of All Out War so far as all it is is a money grab by by Skybound and Image. Negan should have been dead in issue 100. Do I win? The Governor was the ultimate badass, Negan just sucks.

  26. Felix Mitchell November 16, 2013 at 1:59 pm - Reply

    The Walking Dead is the greatest comic book ever written. Hands down. When I read the first issue, I was blown away and I couldn’t stop reading. I have read every issue at least twice. TWD is literally the only book I read anymore, because nothing else even comes close. Robert Kirkman stated that you won’t even be able to recognize Rick in the end…and boy, was he right! It’s nowhere near the end of the series and already I don’t recognize the person I saw in the first Issue!

  27. Thomas Witherspoon November 17, 2013 at 5:30 pm - Reply

    The walking dead is the best comic (and show) ever and I’ve read every issue as least twice. Issue 16 was awesome and i loved how Rick’s group shot the windows to make noise to make a herd of walkers come and trap Negan’s group. Sadly Holly is probably dead but someone had to ram the gates so that the walkers could get in. Anyways thanks for another awesome issue and I would love to get the signed copy of issue 16!!!!

  28. Danny November 17, 2013 at 5:35 pm - Reply

    Love how the zombies are finally factored into the story again. For a while now they have just really been the setting and pretense, but now they’re a threat because Rick and co. actually have to go, and stay, outside of their walls!

  29. dustin rogers November 17, 2013 at 11:54 pm - Reply

    The only way you could possible feel the hunger that Walkers feel is reading TWD, after you finish an issue all there is left is the need to feed on the next. Thank God for the bi weekly releases now.

  30. Zooropa November 18, 2013 at 12:14 pm - Reply

    I blew through this issue in a few minutes. had to re-read a couple times and soak in the great art. THIS is what we’ve been waiting for! Good luck, Holly, remember that Negan has nads too… ALL OUT WAR!!!!!!

  31. Dewey Brannon November 18, 2013 at 2:50 pm - Reply

    All I can say is How About That? Ain’t that some bullspit.

  32. Bob Smith November 18, 2013 at 10:11 pm - Reply

    Guys it’s the post-apocalypse. Of course any vicious man with power is going to rape women. Just because they might both do that doesn’t mean they’re any more similar… It would be laughable to think Negan and/or his men WOULDN’T do anything sexual to Holly. It’s simply a given.

  33. Natedawg November 18, 2013 at 10:26 pm - Reply

    Great issue. I’m a bit surprised the alliance was able to walk right up to Negan’s front door so easily tho? Negans not one to drop the ball on defense. How many of Negan’s men is there at this stage? When we first met Negan his force was well over a hundred but they’ve no doubt had their own share of casualties since.

    Holly you MORON – she was hot, spunky and would’ve been a good love interest for anyone of the single main characters but after Negan’s through with her she’ll be damaged goods and/or dead. Gregory should die soon jesus what a wimp. Hilltop is a bunch of suckers save Jesus.

  34. johnny November 19, 2013 at 5:55 am - Reply

    I’d love to see a gadget to replace rick’s hand (with knifes.. like merle in tv )

  35. johnny November 19, 2013 at 7:36 am - Reply

    I suggest you put the characyer jeff grimes , the brother of rick in the comic book , after several issues from now , I think it would be a great idea to see rick and jeff meet and how they changed and how jeff will meet his nephew carl…

  36. Lon Levin November 19, 2013 at 7:56 am - Reply

    Negan seriously needs to go Lucille on Rick’s head

  37. Chris Bigger November 21, 2013 at 5:13 pm - Reply

    I just got to read issue 116 “finally” I just F’N crap my pants

  38. johnny November 22, 2013 at 1:31 am - Reply

    I think it Negan will force holly to be a soldier instead of a wife. I can imagine what the governor would do if he was in the same situation with holly , h’e’d do horrible atrocities.

  39. johnny November 22, 2013 at 1:33 am - Reply

    I want to see rick with a gadget to replace hand ! Earln will create it

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