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Comics, TV/Film

Show vs Comic! The Prison Assault!

Before you go any further, MASSIVE spoilers through episode 408 (the mid-season finale) of the show and for the comic up through Volume 8 (issue 48). You have been warned.

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Wow, so I actually wasn’t sure if the Governor story line would wrap up in the first half of the season, but lo and behold, we’ve got ourselves a dead Governor (I’m assuming) and a ruined prison. This puts us pretty squarely up through Volume 8: Made to Suffer, so it’s a pretty good time to compare and contrast the Governor story arcs and specifically the assault on the prison.

First, it’s worth noting that the Governor in the show and the Governor in the comic are fairly different. Not just physically but mentally. The comic Governor is MUCH more far gone than the one we see in the show. He almost immediately cuts Rick’s hand off when he first meets him. There is no disguising what a bastard he is. Yes, it’s hidden from the people of Woodbury somewhat, but even those people seem to be more blood-thirsty, criminal, etc.
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And this ties directly into the Governor’s ability to motivate his people into attacking the prison. On the show I felt this was a bit… tenuous. What real evidence did he give that Rick and his crew were bad people? Just a story about his eye and Woodbury? Had he earned the trust of the campers he was with?

In the comic the Governor is still in Woodbury and for better or worse, these people had been following him for a long time and then one day he shows up with an eye scooped out and an arm cut off (yeah Michonne REALLY goes to work on the Gov in the comic. Like really REALLY goes to work). So it makes a little more sense that they would attack the prison.
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Aside from Woodbury lasting the entire story arc, the general structure is close: The Governor attacks the prison, fails, captures someone, and returns again. This happens fairly quickly in the comic. The show, obviously, there is a LOT of time between the two attacks.
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Another big difference is WHO the Governor captures. In the comic it’s just Tyreese (Michonne narrowly escapes, but not before losing her katana, which is presented to the Governor as a trophy). In the show it’s Michonne and Hershel.

In both the show and comic the Governor takes his hostage (comic: Tyreese, show: Hershel) and threatens to behead him if he’s not let in.
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And in both versions, Rick refuses and the hostage is fairly brutally killed with Michonne’s katana. It should be noted that I don’t think either Tyreese or Hershel wanted Rick to give in, and both died heroically.
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In the comic the Governor retreats, is attacked by Michonne (who again escapes but with her katana this time) and in a rage, returns to the prison, desperate to kill everyone there. Without Andrea and Glenn in the sniper towers, his attack is more effective. He manages to lay waste to the prison, dying in the process (killed by one of his own, numb and disenfranchised after realizing she killed a woman and her baby).
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If you’ve never read the comic but have friends who have you probably kept hearing about the prison attack in relation to the show, and there’s a reason. It’s some of the most intense, exciting, sad, and well-written action in the entire series (which is saying a lot). And your friends were probably pretty geeked to see this shot from the comic, basically recreated at the end of the episode:
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In the comic we lose Tyreese, Hershel Greene, Billy Greene, Axel, Lori, baby Judith, the Governor and a lot more. Glenn and Maggie have gone back to the farm BEFORE the second attack on the prison, Andrea and Michonne’s whereabouts are unknown, and Rick and Carl are separated from everyone.

In the show, in the two attacks we lose Axel, Hershel, Andrea (not directly), Milton (not directly), Judith(?) and again, the Governor. The group is scattered. Aside from the bus driving off we don’t really see anyone’s escape from the prison other than Rick and Carl. I think it’s safe to assume that Glenn, Maggie, Michonne, Daryl, Sasha, Tyreese, Beth, Bob, and more are separated in groups outside what’s left of the prison. And Carol may or may not be out there somewhere as well. Great cliffhanger.

The show and the comic, though once again being very different, share that DNA, and head the same direction but with slightly different routes. And I think that’s what helps keep the show so fresh even for people who’ve read the comic.

  1. Ricky December 2, 2013 at 4:32 pm - Reply

    The best TV show in the world. Even if I have to wait till February, hahahaha.

  2. Jason Thomas December 2, 2013 at 4:53 pm - Reply

    I think it was done remarkably it was way better connected than I ever imagined. Hoping to see The Hunters soon .

  3. Chucky Ree December 2, 2013 at 5:42 pm - Reply

    I think that this episode followed the final Prison attack pretty well…I was geeking out during the whole thing though….HERSHEL! CHRISTMAS IS RUINED!

  4. Barry Wells December 2, 2013 at 6:38 pm - Reply

    Love them both..great Job of keeping them different yet the same.

  5. Dani December 2, 2013 at 6:41 pm - Reply

    Amazing. The very first time I screamed and cried during the same show! Geeking out is a good way to put it. Who will we see cast as Negan, that is my question.

  6. Alex December 2, 2013 at 6:43 pm - Reply

    Without Dale, who will the Hunters capture? Maybe Bob?

  7. Chris Bigger December 2, 2013 at 7:05 pm - Reply

    Got to bring Abraham in the show

  8. Chris Bigger December 2, 2013 at 7:05 pm - Reply

    They could have tyreese go way of the hunters

  9. Abel Goddard December 2, 2013 at 7:17 pm - Reply

    Nice recap! It was a great episode. I’m sorry the governor didn’t get more of what he got in the comic, but that wouldn’t go over well on TV, even cable.

    • Ace Bautista December 2, 2013 at 7:31 pm - Reply

      He didn’t cause as much wreck as he did in the comics, so I don’t think he deserves much.

      Comic Gov killed like 5 important characters.
      TV Gov killed 1.

      • Chucky Ree December 2, 2013 at 7:36 pm - Reply

        But, he also indirectly killed Andrea and Milton, and in the first attack killed Axel…So he still kills 5 characters…just differently..

        • Gregarious Raptopoulos December 2, 2013 at 9:31 pm - Reply

          If you are going to include Milton, then you also need to count like the 25 or so other people he killed from Woodbury and his second camp. The Governor killed loads of people, just not the one’s we cared about.

          • William Frost December 2, 2013 at 10:43 pm

            You all forgot about Merle. I’d also like to add that in a single episode they made me care about Martinez, that was shot to hell when he was dragged to.. well.. dragged to hell.

          • Ace Bautista December 3, 2013 at 6:17 am

            Those don’t count, cannon fodders are usually that, you don’t feel for them, they’re bland characters meant to die, they only added those Woodbury survivors so they can kill off non important characters so fans don’t lose interest.

        • Ace Bautista December 3, 2013 at 6:19 am - Reply

          He didn’t kill Lori, I wouldn’t count Andrea and Milton, because at that point everyone wanted her dead than alive, and Milton betrayed Guvnah, he didn’t really do much too…much like Bob in S4. I will give you Axel even though he didn’t win that war.

      • Abel Goddard December 2, 2013 at 7:53 pm - Reply

        Yeah, TV Gov wasn’t as bad as Comic Gov, as shown in the write up above. I just think he still deserved a bit more suffering.

      • Arelys December 3, 2013 at 12:20 am - Reply

        What do you mean 1?

        Hershel, Andrea (he set it up) and Merle and he was a 2 second away from killing Rick…he was bad enough πŸ˜€

        • Ace Bautista December 3, 2013 at 6:15 am - Reply

          Hershel, only.

          Merle went in knowing death was there, Andrea wasn’t the badass sniper in the comics and turned out to be possessed by Lori’s bitchiness.

          The fact is he killed 5 important people in the prison in one war, and they had no chance of winning. In fact, Rick lost that war outright. He didn’t even see or knew that the Governor died so no satisfaction there.

  10. Greg December 2, 2013 at 7:57 pm - Reply

    I’m a fan of the show and look forward to it every Sunday. I even understand why it slows down in parts because they want you to develop that temporary sense of security before everything spirals back into hell with little to no warning. As much as I’m a fan of the show, I adore the hell on earth that is the comic with every fiber of my being. The Walking Dead as a comic has managed to do what no zombie holocaust story on screen or in print has ever successfully done and Kirkman makes it so beautifully painful. It’s damn near impossible to read this comic without developing an attachment to these complicated characters. No zombie movie has ever had the flexibility to explore what people become when their world as they know it is gone, but Kirkman did just that with his comic. I love the show and am very grateful that shows like this exist for me to watch, but the comic, my god, I clamor for every little frame sketched. The next one can’t ever come soon enough.

    The prison assault in the comic was about as brutal and scary as anything I’ve ever read in a graphic novel. The Governor is, just as the comic says, too far gone. Negan is more dangerous and more calculated but he also looks at the bigger picture as evidenced in the most recent issue when he tells one of his own that the war is going to end at some point and that they’re going to have to work with the other side. The Governor, on the other hand, is thinking only of what he wants in that given moment and willing to do anything to anybody to get it. As far as show episodes go, last night was the cast and crew at the absolute top of their game. The comic showed us how horrifying a primitive post apocalyptic battle could be on pages, but the episode, even with the deviations from the comic, showed us the intensity of fear, emotion, anger, and loss all being played out before our eyes. When Hershel’s daughters saw their father die at the hand of the governor, we felt their pain. When a long ago hardened Carl started lashing out on the roamers before breaking down over the loss of Judith, it hit us hard. Seeing the governor order his people to “kill them all” and watching the Rick Grimes in the episode say “don’t look back” to Carl with the exact same comic backdrop amounted to one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen on a television screen. Evil, sad, and fucking beautiful!

  11. mydic brown December 2, 2013 at 8:32 pm - Reply

    i absolutely love the new writer for season four, he is very much a fan of the comics just like the original season one writer who left due to budget cuts. the second and third season writer must of never even picked up a walking dead comic and it clearly shows and i’m glad as all hell he is gone. this season is what the walking dead tv show should be staying true to the comics while doing it’s own thing at the same time.

  12. comicluver December 2, 2013 at 9:13 pm - Reply

    Dont ever compare this show to the comic. The comic is a amazing piece of art brutally shamed by the attempt to portray in a tv show.

  13. Robert Moses Hastings December 2, 2013 at 9:19 pm - Reply

    It was definitely intense. Daryl was really the turning point in the battle because he took out the tank.

  14. Larry Williams December 2, 2013 at 10:09 pm - Reply
  15. chuckwhite December 3, 2013 at 12:42 am - Reply

    Episode 9 Is going to be straight from the comics. The Director has stated that.

  16. Andrew Barnhart December 3, 2013 at 3:38 am - Reply

    Looks like the group got split into these smaller groups:
    Rick & Carl
    Tyreese & kids

    Maggie, Sasha, & Bob

    Daryl & Beth
    Glenn & sick people on bus
    Michonne seems to have wandered off by herself, per usual

  17. Joshua December 3, 2013 at 2:14 pm - Reply

    I’ve heard of bringing in Ford and Negan, which I would love to see. I wonder how they will handle their filthy mouths. Abraham and Negan love to cuss, but there’s not cursing on the show. Solution, movie!

  18. Michael Satumbaga December 4, 2013 at 11:20 am - Reply

    I think they did the Governor arc justice in the show. I wasn’t sure how any of this would work. In fact after last season I thought the show was going to branch off into a totally different direction because he lived after season 3. But the way he came back with Woodbury 2.0 and the writers picked some stuff from the novels was just fantastic. But it was clear after they introduced a tank into the show that they definitely going forward with what we saw. I also like the closing statements. I feel like the show is doing the comic book justice.

  19. disqus_MoDHFZSPwT December 4, 2013 at 3:29 pm - Reply

    What’s funny about the TV governor is that Michonne hates him at a point where there really is no objective reason to hate him – it’s as if she bares a grudge from the Comic book plot!

  20. Danielle Diamond Jackson December 4, 2013 at 7:52 pm - Reply
  21. Darth Gray December 5, 2013 at 7:48 am - Reply

    Not relying on the comic series given that the show screen writers have the autonomy to modify the story line some questions:

    .01 – What’s to become of Tara (gone off to the woods) and Emily whom is seen walking away? Do they have a sister bonding moment/experience? Imagine if they meet up with Carol.
    .02 – Seems Glenn will become the “bus” team leader? Who else is on the bus that may want to challenge?
    .03 – What’s your perspective on the “groups” – Maggie, Bob, and Sasha? Tyresse baby sitting Mika and Lizzie (“psycho” – bunny killer — assuming she did)? Others?
    .04 – Did Michonne rescue Judith? Remember her scene when she had to hold Judith?
    .05 – Finally, Daryl and Beth (ie. our Taylor Swith) together. What if Carol meets up with them?
    .06 – Carol is bound to “return” — from all the teams to join, the most awkward will be with Tyresse and the girls. He still does not know and Carol has these little followers.
    .07 – Are they innocent by-standards – the other kids and moms at the camp by the river? Should we presume they are dead?
    .08 – Hershel’s head was severed but brain not crushed. Will it come back as a walker-head? Maybe the opener for Feb. will zoom-in briefly.

    Enjoy!!!

  22. Darth Gray December 5, 2013 at 8:06 am - Reply

    Some other questions for those that have not fully followed the comics and/or to the writer’s choice could be modified:

    .01 – Who was feeding the walkers by the fence? Same person as the “bunny psycho killer”?
    .02 – Where are the 7,500 walkers? Slow aren’t they? It would have been awesome to have them storm during the mid-season finale.
    .03 – Do we know who killed the other folks in the nearby camp? If the “hunters” any ties to “Bob”?
    .04 – What’s going on with the National Guard/Army – season 3 we saw 2 helicopters? Where is the other?
    .05 – Where did the radio transmission originate from?
    .06 – Bob’s very sketchy? Survived two previous groups … hmmm?
    .07 – The “new” medic Bob?
    .08 – Again, who’s Carol going to team up with, upon her return?

  23. Wolfia Thunderas December 5, 2013 at 10:03 pm - Reply

    Duuuude…. Your face just got blown off!!! Holy crap, totally awesome!! >:D

  24. Wesley Durmon December 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm - Reply

    Can I say. The Walking Dead trys to be hardcore and realistic to a point with things…But that gun fight was not realistic at all. I seen someone pull up an aluminum picnic table as cover. Like those assault rifles can’t go through that. And Daryl use a zombie as cover again bullets can’t go through a body. If that was real he would have been shot and infected. Bullets bouncing off the bus?

  25. Surly December 20, 2013 at 6:50 am - Reply

    Am I the only one who can’t even watch the show any more? I just don’t understand the need to deviate. If you know all of the fans will “geek out” on the rare occasions when we see a frame of the comic come to life, why not do that all the time? Granted, I understand that there are some things that are too graphic for TV and don’t expect to see that, but it just annoys me to see such amazing writing get thrown in the trash and replaced with something that is sub-par at best.

    I’ve been hosting a viewing party since the show started. There used to be about 60+ people who attended. That number has dwindled to about 15 because people got tired of not getting to see the comic story that they fell in love with. The few people who still come only do so out of tradition, and we usually spend an hour or so after each episode talking about how much better the story was in the comic.

    At this point, I kinda wish all of the characters would get killed off and replaced with people who weren’t in the comic so I could see a different story rather than a butchered version of the one I love.

    • idc July 25, 2014 at 6:16 am - Reply

      sorry to say but that is kinda selfish and mean to say like i mean people love that show i love it. And if u want to put down something mean and cruel about how the show is put together write your own show see how hard it is to put memorable scenes people will be talking about for years and make up your own fricken characters names for, all personal feelings and make ur own show good luck with it to even though i already know its going down. oh and dont be a brat messege the show producers and tell them what u think i am guessing they wont appreciate this “Am I the only one who can’t even watch the show any more? I just don’t understand the need to deviate. If you know all of the fans will “geek out” on the rare occasions when we see a frame of the comic come to life, why not do that all the time? Granted, I understand that there
      are some things that are too graphic for TV and don’t expect to see
      that, but it just annoys me to see such amazing writing get thrown in
      the trash and replaced with something that is sub-par at best.
      I’vebeen hosting a viewing party since the show started. There used to be
      about 60+ people who attended. That number has dwindled to about 15
      because people got tired of not getting to see the comic story that they
      fell in love with. The few people who still come only do so out of
      tradition, and we usually spend an hour or so after each episode talking
      about how much better the story was in the comic.At this point, I
      kinda wish all of the characters would get killed off and replaced with
      people who weren’t in the comic so I could see a different story rather
      than a butchered version of the one I love.”-said by the stupidest person ever

  26. John Dias December 31, 2013 at 11:22 pm - Reply
  27. Dillon Jackson January 15, 2014 at 12:12 pm - Reply

    Ironically just finished made to suffer today. Still haven’t seen the mid season finale. The walking dead is my favorite tv show i love it show much…. But as it always is the books are better…. And darker too like when Michonne tortures the Governor… Damn… Im gonna watch the last episode and see for myself… But i think Hershals death is a lot sadder in the comic…. RIP Tyreese, Billy, Lori, Judith, Hershal, Patricia The Governor can burn in hell

  28. James February 2, 2014 at 7:21 pm - Reply

    The show’s doing a pretty fantastic job at keeping relatively close to the comics and yet still doing different stuff to keep the story interesting. I like the whole illness thing in the show, it was new and horrifying and exciting but it kinda seemed like the main characters (besides Glenn) were inexplicably immune (e.g. Rick was around everyone before and killed the pigs, getting blood on him in the process, and yet still didn’t show any signs of illness) which took away from the suspense. Anyway, the mid-season finale was really awesome. The shot of the cars in that ‘v’ shape lining up at the prison fences; awesome. David Morrissey’s very-different-to-what-I-thought-it-would-sound-like-but-still-awesome “Kill ’em All!”. Hershel dying honorably the way Tyreese did in the comic allowing Tyreese’s character to develop further (at the moment he’s seeming like a huge and whiny pussy as opposed to the badass he was in the comics, so I’m glad he’s alive to develop). The tank devastatingly destroying the prison, in particular, the fences; awesome and horrific. HOWEVER, I wished they included some things from the comic. For example, the governor’s other eye getting shot out of his head (which I think really represents his blindness and evilness and destructive nature or something {I don’t know, I’m not an art student}) and I think it would have been horribly fantastic if Beth picked up Judith and was running to the bus and then gets shot and falls, killing both her and the baby (much like Lori in the comics) which gives Maggie a very strong reason to try and hang herself (which I hope they include in the show). Anyway, looking forward to the mid-season premiere and everything that’s to come. I have a feeling that, following the trend of the other seasons, the second half is going to be fairly slow (but I might be wrong). Either way, looking forward to everything the walking dead is offering our zombie-addled brains.

  29. Danyal S March 24, 2014 at 11:39 am - Reply

    I love both so much, and I like to see how they compare and contrast. In my opinion its like the tv show is an “alternate universe” kind a thing, showing how things could’ve been diffrent but still lead to the same inevitable end. Just plain AMAZING.


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